CA friendly exhaust and mods systems - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

drifter · 08-03-2012, 02:38 PM

Vendors or CA knowledgable users : please post any available performance modifications or systems that can pass CA regulations, if not, and a part can easily be replaced, (or hidden?) please post anyway. (ok, and lets keep the CA environmental nutjob jokes to a minimum : ) I'm hearing different opinions of what can and can't be used in CA. (also, I believe AZ is in the same boat?)

Many of us are reading these amazing systems that we cannot consider because of CA regulations. (and not all of us wish to move just to drive a car or buy better gas)

This will be of great help to the CA less fortunate : )

Thank you

SkullWorks · 08-03-2012, 02:42 PM

California Air Resources Board, CARB, Dictates that you cannot replace anything in the air tract of the motor between the filter and the last catalytic converter.

You cannot have installed any device which allows modification of the factory engine control protocols.

you basically (legally) can change the cat back, air filters are usually OK as long as they are listed as a direct replacement part.

anything else requires CARB EO (exemption Order) numbers.

Sorry,

Bonburner · 08-03-2012, 02:46 PM

Man CARB is lame

likely won't be stopping me though lol

drifter · 08-03-2012, 02:47 PM

There's got to be a way around, at least some of this.

Also, does that mean aftermarket tubo's and SC's are out?

Bonburner · 08-03-2012, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drifter

There's got to be a way around, at least some of this.

Also, does that mean aftermarket tubo's and SC's are out?

TRD is a legal option

Lonewolf · 08-03-2012, 03:15 PM

I've been getting around CARB for years, and have never been referred to a smog referee (knocks on wood).

1) Your exhaust needs to be catted and not obnoxiously loud...I also stay away from exhausts with shiny "hey officer, this ain't stock" canisters...

2) Don't put racing stickers or aftermarket performance decals on your car...they're magnets for unwanted attention

3) Drive like a grandma in areas with a concentrated police presence...

4) Stay faaaar away from street racing areas and questionable gatherings of so-called car guys doing burnouts and blasting loud music

= All of that equates to me being able to do anything I need to do with my cars in this smog nazi state...full catbacks, t3/t4 turbo upgrades, big fmic, nitrous (save the F&F jokes)

wootwoot · 08-03-2012, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I've been getting around CARB for years, and have never been referred to a smog referee (knocks on wood).

1) Your exhaust needs to be catted and not obnoxiously loud...I also stay away from exhausts with shiny "hey officer, this ain't stock" canisters...

2) Don't put racing stickers or aftermarket performance decals on your car...they're magnets for unwanted attention

3) Drive like a grandma in areas with a concentrated police presence...

4) Stay faaaar away from street racing areas and questionable gatherings of so-called car guys doing burnouts and blasting loud music

= All of that equates to me being able to do anything I need to do with my cars in this smog nazi state...full catbacks, t3/t4 turbo upgrades, big fmic, nitrous (save the F&F jokes)

drifter · 08-03-2012, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I've been getting around CARB for years, and have never been referred to a smog referee (knocks on wood).

1) Your exhaust needs to be catted and not obnoxiously loud...I also stay away from exhausts with shiny "hey officer, this ain't stock" canisters...

2) Don't put racing stickers or aftermarket performance decals on your car...they're magnets for unwanted attention

3) Drive like a grandma in areas with a concentrated police presence...

4) Stay faaaar away from street racing areas and questionable gatherings of so-called car guys doing burnouts and blasting loud music

= All of that equates to me being able to do anything I need to do with my cars in this smog nazi state...full catbacks, t3/t4 turbo upgrades, big fmic, nitrous (save the F&F jokes)

Do you have to make any changes when you get smogged?

Lonewolf · 08-03-2012, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drifter

Do you have to make any changes when you get smogged?

Yeah, I've had to do exhaust swaps before...and remove other bolt-on bits, but nothing too time consuming

Or

I've heard that you can find a tester willing to *cough, cough* look the other way during testing

zAnSh1n · 08-03-2012, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

I've been getting around CARB for years, and have never been referred to a smog referee (knocks on wood).

1) Your exhaust needs to be catted and not obnoxiously loud...I also stay away from exhausts with shiny "hey officer, this ain't stock" canisters...

2) Don't put racing stickers or aftermarket performance decals on your car...they're magnets for unwanted attention

3) Drive like a grandma in areas with a concentrated police presence...

4) Stay faaaar away from street racing areas and questionable gatherings of so-called car guys doing burnouts and blasting loud music

= All of that equates to me being able to do anything I need to do with my cars in this smog nazi state...full catbacks, t3/t4 turbo upgrades, big fmic, nitrous (save the F&F jokes)

i don't know where you are in CA, but i wish it was that easy around where i am [south bay]...

Gen · 08-03-2012, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lonewolf

4) Stay faaaar away from street racing areas and questionable gatherings of so-called car guys doing burnouts and blasting loud music

One of the many reasons I avoid meetups that involve standing around in an In N' Out parking lot staring at our cars.

07stealth350z · 08-04-2012, 05:40 PM

It helps to keep the stock parts on hand in your garage or in storage too. Once I get the car, I plan to be as subtle as possible with my exhaust setups (catted pipes and all), but in the event of needing to get smogged for any reason, just swap out the parts before you do it, pass, and re-install.

Lonewolf · 08-04-2012, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 07stealth350z

It helps to keep the stock parts on hand in your garage or in storage too. Once I get the car, I plan to be as subtle as possible with my exhaust setups (catted pipes and all), but in the event of needing to get smogged for any reason, just swap out the parts before you do it, pass, and re-install.

Good tip. Keep all your stock exhaust bits, stock airbox...you never know if you'll need to slap em back on. Also, when trading in or selling a car, stock bits are looked upon more favorably than aftermarket.

08-03-2012, 02:38 PM	#1
drifter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: truck and old car Location: CA Posts: 295 Thanks: 120 Thanked 168 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	CA friendly exhaust and mods systems Vendors or CA knowledgable users : please post any available performance modifications or systems that can pass CA regulations, if not, and a part can easily be replaced, (or hidden?) please post anyway. (ok, and lets keep the CA environmental nutjob jokes to a minimum : ) I'm hearing different opinions of what can and can't be used in CA. (also, I believe AZ is in the same boat?) Many of us are reading these amazing systems that we cannot consider because of CA regulations. (and not all of us wish to move just to drive a car or buy better gas) This will be of great help to the CA less fortunate : ) Thank you

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07stealth350z Nissan Fan Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Sector 9 Longboard Location: So Cal Posts: 110 Thanks: 8 Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	It helps to keep the stock parts on hand in your garage or in storage too. Once I get the car, I plan to be as subtle as possible with my exhaust setups (catted pipes and all), but in the event of needing to get smogged for any reason, just swap out the parts before you do it, pass, and re-install. __________________ 2007 Nissan 350Z Enthusiast (Carbon Silver) SOLD 2013 Nissan GT-R Black Edition (Jet Black) 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited (World Rally Blue) VON received/Pending Arrival

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drifter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: truck and old car Location: CA Posts: 295 Thanks: 120 Thanked 168 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There's got to be a way around, at least some of this. Also, does that mean aftermarket tubo's and SC's are out?

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