New ICE Vehicles Banned in California by 2035

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

@NoHaveMSG seems to be saying that it doesn't work at any 3rd party charger.

Their home charger works, not sure what brand it is but I know it isn't a Tesla one. They have 3 Tesla superchargers 50 miles in any direction. Almost everything is 3rd party around here and most don't work even though other Tesla's charge there no problem. Been through all the software updates and probably around $1k in different charge adapters.

Something about they need a part updated on the car for the charger to work, the Tesla service center won't let them order it and schedule an appointment for install, they have to wait until one is in stock. I dunno, my dad is pretty flustered about it for a while now. The service center here in town is pretty new, open less than 6 months. The car works fine as is with just a home charger for the milage that they use, around 50-60 miles/day.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Their home charger works, not sure what brand it is but I know it isn't a Tesla one. They have 3 Tesla superchargers 50 miles in any direction. Almost everything is 3rd party around here and most don't work even though other Tesla's charge there no problem. Been through all the software updates and probably around $1k in different charge adapters.

Something about they need a part updated on the car for the charger to work, the Tesla service center won't let them order it and schedule an appointment for install, they have to wait until one is in stock. I dunno, my dad is pretty flustered about it for a while now. The service center here in town is pretty new, open less than 6 months. The car works fine as is with just a home charger for the milage that they use, around 50-60 miles/day.

You opened a can of worms

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

You opened a can of worms

It's just one anecdotal point. My dad still loves the car even though it is mostly mom mom's. She would still be driving a 05' Elantra if she had a choice.

[Lantanafrs2]

I see many teslas in west palm beach. Older conservatives who don't like evs still purchase teslas. They're looked at as luxury items and on the island anything with a big 3 emblem is inappropriate.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Not sure appearing on the nav map in a Tesla and being able to use it are the same thing. @NoHaveMSG seems to be referring to the latter, and your references seem to point to the former.

There is nothing precluding a Tesla from using any 3rd party charger, otherwise it wouldn't be possible for it to appear on the map at all based on the criteria you mention.

@NoHaveMSG seems to be saying that it doesn't work at any 3rd party charger.

Yeah that makes sense. I was thinking the firmware/software locked out the car from pairing with a fast charger, but I guess you are right that it is just from the navigation.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Their home charger works, not sure what brand it is but I know it isn't a Tesla one. They have 3 Tesla superchargers 50 miles in any direction. Almost everything is 3rd party around here and most don't work even though other Tesla's charge there no problem. Been through all the software updates and probably around $1k in different charge adapters.

Something about they need a part updated on the car for the charger to work, the Tesla service center won't let them order it and schedule an appointment for install, they have to wait until one is in stock. I dunno, my dad is pretty flustered about it for a while now. The service center here in town is pretty new, open less than 6 months. The car works fine as is with just a home charger for the milage that they use, around 50-60 miles/day.

Sounds specific to their car. Bummer.

https://electrek.co/2019/07/09/tesla...ging-networks/

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I see many teslas in west palm beach. Older conservatives who don't like evs still purchase teslas. They're looked at as luxury items and on the island anything with a big 3 emblem is inappropriate.

I used to live in W. Palm Beach, and had acquaintances on Palm Beach. My guess is they thought they were buying a "luxury golf cart" and didn't realize it was an actual car.

[WolfpackS2k]

That's what it felt like when I drove one lol

[Irace86.2.0]

Ultimately, it should feel like a better golf cart just like a car is a better lawn mower.

Surprisingly, the best part of the driving experience is the instantaneous torque, linear/predictable torque curve and not having a middle man (transmission) to dilute and interfere with the process. I've never felt more directly linked to the engine and to the throttle than in an EV. NA manual is next. NA PDK is next, FI manual, and it just goes downhill fast from there.

[WolfpackS2k]

I liked the steering of the Model Y. Yes the instantaneous torque was nice, but it was so easy (and lacking fanfare) that it also got boring in a hurry. My opinion of course.

[Lantanafrs2]

https://www.autoweek.com/news/a43143...ation-and-evs/

[Irace86.2.0]

Seems like everything he mentioned is either not an issue or as much of an issue, or it won’t be an issue in the future when it matters.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Sounds specific to their car. Bummer.

https://electrek.co/2019/07/09/tesla...ging-networks/

I actually talked with my dad about this again. It is an issue with the little PCB board on the back side of the charger plug causing it to not recognize some chargers. Their car is a 19', I guess this was updated on the 21'+ and the boards are just now available to update older cars in 22', they are just hard to get. $58 from Tesla for the part, people are scalping them online for 200. Can't order it online, have to wait for one to be in stock.

[Irace86.2.0]

Lithium deposit found in US may be among world’s largest, study finds

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...st-study-finds

A deposit of lithium recently discovered along the Nevada-Oregon border may be among the world’s largest, having potentially huge implications for the transition to electric vehicles.

The deposit exists in the McDermitt Caldera, a caldera approximately 28 miles long and 22 miles wide. It is believed that the caldera contains around 20 to 40 million metric tons of lithium – a figure that would dwarf deposits in Chile and Australia.

Belgian geologist Anouk Borst told Chemistry World that the findings "could change the dynamics of lithium globally, in terms of price, security of supply and geopolitics."

Globally, lithium output is on track to triple over the next decade, but demand for electric SUVs, sports cars, and sedans threatens to exceed supply. Each battery requires about 17 pounds of lithium, plus cobalt, nickel and other metals.

So that is 44 billion to 88 billion pounds of lithium, and at 17 pounds per vehicle (using the article's numbers) that would be 2.5-5 billion cars. We have a few other large deposits of lithium in the US that we know of, plus other less concentrated sources. There is a deposit in the state of Maine that is 11 million metric tons, or 24 billion pounds.

https://www.boston.com/news/environm...%20in%20length.