Any PC Gamers Around?

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I realise this is late advice but....
There was a little bit of tech news about MSI drivers from non-MSI websites.
Non MSI websites had dodgy/corrupted drivers. Take away was to only download from the MSI website.

I just downloaded them from the AMD site

[weederr33]

So a little update about the 7900 XTX.

Thus far it's handled everything very well! Metro Exodus, GTA V, and Grid Legends have all run super smooth with no issues. Obviously the 7900 XTX gets much warmer than my 3070, especially in a SFF case. But it's been perfectly fine and cools off quickly once I'm done gaming. The MSI fans are much quieter than my Gigabyte was.

The H1V2 features a rear 92mm exhaust fan for the GPU and while quiet, it could use a bit of an upgrade. So I plan to get a Noctua NF-A9 to replace the stock NZXT fan. It is slightly quieter but can push much more air flow. Same with the AIO fan. I replaced it with a BeQuiet Light Wings fan, however to go with the build of black and white, I plan to pick up one of their new white light wing fans! Slowly upgrading this kit has been a blast for sure!

[Clipdat]

What resolution do you game at?

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Clipdat

What resolution do you game at?

1440p

[weederr33]

Okay, day 3 of owning the card and now I'm seeing a few little knickknacks. I wouldn't call them 'issues' but they are for sure noteworthy.

First, I'm not sure if it's a driver thing or not-- probably-- but I've had my computer display have issues syncing/ registering my card. It's hard to explain, but my display settings will default to basic, my audio will stop functioning, and there will be some post issues. After restarting it resolved the first time, second time I had to reinstall the drivers. Super easy fix and didn't brick my computer, but a notable occurrence. this is probably the biggest "issue" I've had so far.

Second, a few of my games that would default to high or ultra settings on my 3070 are now at medium or low quality by default. Again, could be a driver thing or whatever. Good examples are Dead Space Remake, Cyberpunk, and oddly enough Mirrors Edge (the 2009 original). Mirrors Edge crashed the moment I put it on anything above 1280x960. Again, can't say if that's the 7900 XTX or in general since I haven't played that game in like 5-6 years.

Lastly, the 'glitches'. On Dead Space, once I adjusted the settings to high or ultra, I saw little black pixilation and tearing. It would also lag a bit. I'm guessing this is a bottleneck issue between the 5600x & 7900 XTX since this was not an issue when paired with my 3070. I played with some of the settings and it was still there just less frequent. On Cyberpunk, it's just low frame rates and lag. Again, probably being an AMD card and bottlenecking.

[cjd]

What's your video cable rated at? HDMI can be finicky as heck. I assume DP can be too and I'm suspecting them for my occasional issues but I couldn't even get HDMI to stay stable. Triple 1440, 5600x, 6800XT... Just had to get some certified 8k HDMI cables for the home theater and learned a lot trying to find the right stuff.

[spcmafia]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Okay, day 3 of owning the card and now I'm seeing a few little knickknacks. I wouldn't call them 'issues' but they are for sure noteworthy.

First, I'm not sure if it's a driver thing or not-- probably-- but I've had my computer display have issues syncing/ registering my card. It's hard to explain, but my display settings will default to basic, my audio will stop functioning, and there will be some post issues. After restarting it resolved the first time, second time I had to reinstall the drivers. Super easy fix and didn't brick my computer, but a notable occurrence. this is probably the biggest "issue" I've had so far.

Second, a few of my games that would default to high or ultra settings on my 3070 are now at medium or low quality by default. Again, could be a driver thing or whatever. Good examples are Dead Space Remake, Cyberpunk, and oddly enough Mirrors Edge (the 2009 original). Mirrors Edge crashed the moment I put it on anything above 1280x960. Again, can't say if that's the 7900 XTX or in general since I haven't played that game in like 5-6 years.

Lastly, the 'glitches'. On Dead Space, once I adjusted the settings to high or ultra, I saw little black pixilation and tearing. It would also lag a bit. I'm guessing this is a bottleneck issue between the 5600x & 7900 XTX since this was not an issue when paired with my 3070. I played with some of the settings and it was still there just less frequent. On Cyberpunk, it's just low frame rates and lag. Again, probably being an AMD card and bottlenecking.

I saw you kept the 750W PSU, which is the minimum required for the card, but since you're trying to push most of the settings to Ultra, it may be that it is drawing for more power and causing your computer to go into thermal throttling.

I would begin with taking a look at your BIOS settings with your CPU. Enable DOCP and let the system decide what's best for performance by enabling the equivalent of "ASUS Optimal".



Did you delete all NVIDIA software prior to installing Adrenallin? It could be interfering with your display settings.



Are you using a DP instead of HDMI. When you have a card like that, DP is the way to go.



Did you use two separate power cables to power up the GPU, and not piggy-back off of one.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by spcmafia

I saw you kept the 750W PSU, which is the minimum required for the card, but since you're trying to push most of the settings to Ultra, it may be that it is drawing for more power and causing your computer to go into thermal throttling.

I would begin with taking a look at your BIOS settings with your CPU. Enable DOCP and let the system decide what's best for performance by enabling the equivalent of "ASUS Optimal".



Did you delete all NVIDIA software prior to installing Adrenallin? It could be interfering with your display settings.



Are you using a DP instead of HDMI. When you have a card like that, DP is the way to go.



Did you use two separate power cables to power up the GPU, and not piggy-back off of one.

Interesting point on the PSU. I did plan to potentially upgrade it to one ASUS came out with and then get custom length cables. However it hasn’t tripped yet and thus far I’m only really pulling about 560w give or take during gaming.

I need to take a look at the BIOS but I believe I do have DOCP enabled.

I did uninstall everything from NVIDIA so that front is good.

And absolutely I’m using DP!

I did use all three dedicated cables for the card so that front is good so far.

All of my other games and such have been good. And the adrenaline app helps me monitor things. I do for sure have a bottleneck with the 5600x but it’s really not that bad of one from what I can tell.

[spcmafia]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Interesting point on the PSU. I did plan to potentially upgrade it to one ASUS came out with and then get custom length cables. However it hasn’t tripped yet and thus far I’m only really pulling about 560w give or take during gaming.

I need to take a look at the BIOS but I believe I do have DOCP enabled.

I did uninstall everything from NVIDIA so that front is good.

And absolutely I’m using DP!

I did use all three dedicated cables for the card so that front is good so far.

All of my other games and such have been good. And the adrenaline app helps me monitor things. I do for sure have a bottleneck with the 5600x but it’s really not that bad of one from what I can tell.

Yeah at 560W that could be at certain stages of a game. Some GPUs can spike past their operating W, therefore triggering thermal throttling.



Might also want to check your "Advanced Display Settings" and check that your refresh rate matches the one of your monitor.



Take a look at power settings and setup a custom plan for when you're gaming.

[cjd]

If you can I'd also be graphing temps and power draw. Make sure cables are fully seated and if your power supply supports two rail modes (mine does) make sure it's on the single 12v rail setting.
Problem exist with the case open and an external fan aimed at it?

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by cjd

If you can I'd also be graphing temps and power draw. Make sure cables are fully seated and if your power supply supports two rail modes (mine does) make sure it's on the single 12v rail setting.
Problem exist with the case open and an external fan aimed at it?

Thermals are fine. GPU usually sits around 65-75c, though for Cyberpunk it hit closer to 80c after about an hour lol. CPU is around 70c. So I’m not too worried about temps.

Cables and all are seated fine.

I’m pretty sure many of the issues are with the driver but I can’t say yet.

[elBarto]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Thermals are fine. GPU usually sits around 65-75c, though for Cyberpunk it hit closer to 80c after about an hour lol. CPU is around 70c. So I’m not too worried about temps.

Cables and all are seated fine.

I’m pretty sure many of the issues are with the driver but I can’t say yet.

AMD drivers are always been a hit and miss regarding stabilty.
Don't have any experience with them lately (last Radeon card I had was an ATI, and even then you needed modded drivers)

But I have a similar system as yours, Asus TUF X570 MB, AMD 5800x and an Asus 3080 with a Corsair 750W PSU, my CPU cooler is a Coolermaster Hyper 212 (the old AM3+ kind)
At stock out of the box the CPU would run hot and was unstable, reaching temps till 85 °c and it would start thermal throttling, Vcore was between 1.4 and 1.5 V.
So I disabled everything of overclocking (especially the Asus Optimized crap), undervolted the CPU to 1.12V (and overclocked it to 4.5Ghz).
System became stable and temps dropped alot. Now it reaches 65°c max in a Cinebench run, lower with gaming, roomtemp around 20°c. I also undervolted the GPU (and downclocked it a little bit).
With the 2 undervolts Combined, I think I lowered my powerusage with arround 100W and the system runs cooler and more stable.
Check the Realtek audio driver, on my system it would occasionally give a BSoD under certain conditions. Since I removed that driver and used the default windows drivers, I never had a BSoD.

Don't know if this is going to help you, those are just my experience, some things that helped my system to get it stable.
Jayz2cents has some how-to undervolt video's of AMD CPU and GPU.

[Wally86]

Started a new game... I'm not sure I've ever laughed this much in a solo game.

[Sasquachulator]

Is that the Stanley Parable or whatever its called?
It looks familiar to me but i just cant recall what its name is.