Flow formed or better, $1000 to $2500, high quality

[Desertnate]

Originally Posted by ZionsWrath

My track wheels were PF01s. Were great, cleared BBK easily, light weight, reasonable cost, never bent even with a few spin offs and street driving in NYC, and look simple and clean IMO. It’s actually the only thing I have left from my BRZ, I just couldn’t part with them.

Glad to hear this. I just took delivery of a set to run as my autocross wheels. I found good reviews other places, but it's always good to hear more.

[fryfun]

Bought the car with Konig Hypergram shoes on. 18x8.5+38 I believe. Light and strong, no complaints so far, which prevents me from buying the SSR GTX03 for 3 years now.

[mike_ekim1024]

So instead of a spreadsheet, which can get out of hand fairly quickly, I started writing a web app. My day job is working with React, so why not



https://wheels.ft86partpicker.com


Only a few wheels to get the design thought out. I'll add more over time. The www site is a much older, but maybe still relevant with a list of basic parts.



Mike

[mike_ekim1024]

Doing more research, WORK Emotion ZR10 is listed as "1 Piece / WORK Flowforming Technology (WFT)". I don't see any other Emotion products listed with WFT, but I feel there could be?



https://www.workwheelsusa.com/product/emotion-zr10


It's difficult to find weight information for this wheel other than it is "lightweight"

[mike_ekim1024]

Another flow-formed wheel, but I’m not familiar with the brand:

https://neuspeedrswheels.com/product...31935766528113

At $380 / wheel (18x8.5), they’re in the mid-range of flow-formed wheels.

[Racecomp Engineering]

BRAID Fullrace A. Made to order, essentially any size and offset. Not super light, priority is strength but they're commonly used in motorsport. I use them and like them.

- Andrew

[Desertnate]

Originally Posted by mike_ekim1024

Another flow-formed wheel, but I’m not familiar with the brand:

https://neuspeedrswheels.com/product...31935766528113

At $380 / wheel (18x8.5), they’re in the mid-range of flow-formed wheels.

They are fairly popular in some German car circles from what I remember. Only heard good things about them.

[Tatsu333]

Originally Posted by Desertnate

They are fairly popular in some German car circles from what I remember. Only heard good things about them.

Yes - Neuspeed is a very popular VW/Audi tuner that's been around for decades. Problem with the wheels for our platform is that the center bore is wrong (57.1mm for the wheels vs. 56.1mm for our cars), and you can't get a hubcentric ring to fit because the difference is so small.

EDIT: I guess since back in the day when I was a VW guy, Neuspeed has added products for BMW, Fiat, Mini and Porsche as well.

[mike_ekim1024]

Originally Posted by Tatsu333

Yes - Neuspeed is a very popular VW/Audi tuner that's been around for decades. Problem with the wheels for our platform is that the center bore is wrong (57.1mm for the wheels vs. 56.1mm for our cars), and you can't get a hubcentric ring to fit because the difference is so small.

EDIT: I guess since back in the day when I was a VW guy, Neuspeed has added products for BMW, Fiat, Mini and Porsche as well.

There’s some conflicting info about hub-centric rings, but I believe this post the most, that they don’t carry any load, but do help make sure the wheel is centered.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...57&postcount=7

I do see Neuspeed wheels in the wheel directory:

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18732

[Tatsu333]

Originally Posted by mike_ekim1024

There’s some conflicting info about hub-centric rings, but I believe this post the most, that they don’t carry any load, but do help make sure the wheel is centered.

That's correct - they are for centering only. That's why plastic hubcentric rings are viable.

I'd say it's near-zero possibility that you can get 0.5mm thick hubcentric rings to bridge the 1mm difference in center bore, so you'd be chancing slight mis-centering with these wheels every time you fit them. That said, if the bolt holes are tapered, then the lug nuts will do their own bit of centering, so it *could* be just fine...

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by mike_ekim1024

There’s some conflicting info about hub-centric rings, but I believe this post the most, that they don’t carry any load, but do help make sure the wheel is centered.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...57&postcount=7

That post is pretty spot on. I personally have never run them, though the Arc-8's are hubcentric already without rings. 57DR's are loosey goosey on the hub.

[mike_ekim1024]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

BRAID Fullrace A. Made to order, essentially any size and offset. Not super light, priority is strength but they're commonly used in motorsport. I use them and like them.

- Andrew

"These wheels are manufactured using the very latest in full flowcast technology which allows a more uniform arrangement of the alloy structure and granularity greatly increasing the wheel's final characteristics. The result is a lighter and stiffer wheel with much improved strength both in terms of bending and cracking."


A little pricey, but they sound like super tough wheels and the weight is not bad at 20.3 lbs for 18x8, in line with the other flow-formed wheel brands.


One thing that is hard to convey is strength. Well, without buying some and running some torture tests

[mike_ekim1024]

Added load rating to the specs on https://wheels.ft86partpicker.com, as well as a few more wheels. With some wheels, it's difficult to find the rating, even with brands such as WedsSport (found the TC105X but not the SA-75R).


In general, 1500 lbs seems to be the high end with these collection of wheels, with some lower such as 1190 lbs for the Konig Rennform. I wonder if load rating include sideways forces such as when hard cornering?


https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32942

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by mike_ekim1024

Doing more research, WORK Emotion ZR10 is listed as "1 Piece / WORK Flowforming Technology (WFT)". I don't see any other Emotion products listed with WFT, but I feel there could be?



https://www.workwheelsusa.com/product/emotion-zr10


It's difficult to find weight information for this wheel other than it is "lightweight"

I bought the ZR10! Granted, they're not for the twins since I no longer have one.

18x9.5, ET38 for the set I got.