Subframe/Swaybar GR86 vs BRZ

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Lovely. I thought getting GR suspension on my BRZ was going to be a production but looks like I only need to buy the rear bar & springs and the bar swap is something I can do in less than an hour. Including the bumper and paint my conversion should cost <$1000. Combined with the BRZ purchased at MSRP that's less than a GR86 would have cost me and I have the assurance that I'll have it by summer.

What's everyone's favorite online Toyota parts source?

Get yourself a set of the OEM crash bolts while you're at it!

- Andrew

[BioRebel]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Get yourself a set of the OEM crash bolts while you're at it!

- Andrew

How much camber do you get from the crash bolt? I've got a set of the SPC camber bolts I'm planning on installing soon.

[Racecomp Engineering]

Originally Posted by BioRebel

How much camber do you get from the crash bolt? I've got a set of the SPC camber bolts I'm planning on installing soon.

Oh not very much at all. I think just over -1...it's just such an easy no-brainer for even the dailyest of drivers.

- Andrew

[diga]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Get yourself a set of the OEM crash bolts while you're at it!

- Andrew

I'm getting -1.4/5 with the Whiteline camber bolts, I think with the OEM crash bolts people are getting -.8 or so?


Thank you for your analysis on the suspension differences, would be interesting to do the swap to the GR86 rear sway and springs on my 22 BRZ - although I'm really happy with just the camber bolts!

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Get yourself a set of the OEM crash bolts while you're at it!

- Andrew

Yes, that's happening at the same time, hopefully the day after I pick up the car.

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by Racecomp Engineering

Get yourself a set of the OEM crash bolts while you're at it!

Why not SPC/Whiteline? Can get significantly more with them.
[Unless you autox. Boo at SCCA.]

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

Why not SPC/Whiteline? Can get significantly more with them.
[Unless you autox. Boo at SCCA.]

For a car that sees a lot of highway miles, little to no track use, and wants reasonable tire life, isn't 1° perfect? Would I prefer 1.5°?

[norcalpb]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

Why not SPC/Whiteline? Can get significantly more with them.
[Unless you autox. Boo at SCCA.]

I have SPC myself, but I like the idea of OEM bolts being the literal oem"+" option. They are thicker, potentially made of stronger material, and have a higher torque spec.

Negatives like you said being less overall camber adjustment, and the wheel being a couple mm closer to the suspension than with SPC/WL.

[vindiesel]

I don’t see why people care about this…when the average consumer wouldn’t notice a difference nor care in most applications on the premise they haven’t driven both. Even then it’s minuscule difference. The people reviewing these cars have driven 6 figure cars so their viewpoint is jaded and attuned to the microscopic capacities of vehicles “feels.” Or your a track rat looking to shave lap times. That bifurcation of experience is rather rare and not of the average. If this is the VIP lounge then excuse my nihilistic thoughts.

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by vindiesel

I don’t see why people care about this…when the average consumer wouldn’t notice a difference nor care in most applications on the premise they haven’t driven both. Even then it’s minuscule difference. The people reviewing these cars have driven 6 figure cars so their viewpoint is jaded and attuned to the microscopic capacities of vehicles “feels.” Or your a track rat looking to shave lap times. That bifurcation of experience is rather rare and not of the average. If this is the VIP lounge then excuse my nihilistic thoughts.

I don't think many people will swap swaybar mounts, it's mere curiosity about the differences.

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by vindiesel

I don’t see why people care about this…when the average consumer wouldn’t notice a difference nor care in most applications on the premise they haven’t driven both. Even then it’s minuscule difference. The people reviewing these cars have driven 6 figure cars so their viewpoint is jaded and attuned to the microscopic capacities of vehicles “feels.” Or your a track rat looking to shave lap times. That bifurcation of experience is rather rare and not of the average. If this is the VIP lounge then excuse my nihilistic thoughts.

Because "different"

Same reason weebs buy JDM parts, and Japanese folks buy UDM parts.

Because different.

[norcalpb]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

I don't think many people will swap swaybar mounts, it's mere curiosity about the differences.

Reading these comments you should be ashamed of making this thread, and I should be ashamed for doing the swap

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by norcalpb

Reading these comments you should be ashamed of making this thread, and I should be ashamed for doing the swap

"I regeret nothing!"
I actually think it's a fun little project to look at the differences between the Twins and try to make a "best of both" combination of features. Besides the front bumper, all these pieces are pretty cheap.

[Blighty]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

"I regeret nothing!"
I actually think it's a fun little project to look at the differences between the Twins and try to make a "best of both" combination of features. Besides the front bumper, all these pieces are pretty cheap.

Nothing is cheap anymore.

The damn price Toyota and Subaru charge for some of these basic parts are silly.