Scion FR-S Concept First Official Pics/Videos + NYIAS Pics and Press Conference

[OldSkoolToys]

There are pro's and cons from both the Mk2 and the Scion FR-S. I think what we need to take here is that they're moving in the right direction.

They got rid of the BMW styled fender vents at least.

[#87]

Originally Posted by dilly-o

dont plan on using the trunk, the taillights overlap the lid!

Don't plan on hitting bumps either, the rotors are attached to the wheel with 30 series tires !!

[fernan2]

Originally Posted by xantonin

I hate it. They took away the things I liked the most about the MK-II concept.

The rear is uglier. It looks like a damn Camaro rear! At least before it looked like a Celica rear. They somehow managed to make the defuser more boxy looking.

^^^^ HATER!

[philip808]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

I never said or wrote anything about this approaching the 911 GT3 RS. Nobody in their right mind would compare a $25k car to a $120k car. So please don't go over board with your analogies.

I said that this front vent used the same basic design feature as the GT3 RS. Now if you want to argue if it is beneficial or useful you can do that. I'm not sure how long Toyota spent in the windtunnel or on the track when they designed this feature. But when done correctly it is meant to help aero and handling. The key word is when done correctly. The purpose of something like this front vent (function over form) is for the car's handling and aero. We can start a new thread if you want to disagree or argue about the purpose of the vent.

But it has no application to the FR-S, as the huge brakes, tires, diffusers, etc..are useless for a street driven vehicle in this caliber of car. If the subject in question can't use the function because the form doesn't allow, then it's just stylistic nonesense, no matter what the function is on a seperate, more appropriate form. I probably spent more time on the can this morning than Toyota did in a wind tunnel on this particular concept.

pj

[Hachiroku]

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[fernan2]

Originally Posted by xantonin

This just doesn't look as elegant.

WTF??? it looks perfect to me!

[colHolm]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

There are pro's and cons from both the Mk2 and the Scion FR-S. I think what we need to take here is that they're moving in the right direction.

They got rid of the BMW styled fender vents at least.

On this concept at least...

Press release mentions 5axis wheels. You can be sure Troy massaged the body too.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by philip808

But it has no application to the FR-S, as the huge brakes, tires, diffusers, etc..are useless for a street driven vehicle in this caliber of car. If the subject in question can't use the function because the form doesn't allow, then it's just stylistic nonesense, no matter what the function is on a seperate, more appropriate form. I probably spent more time on the can this morning than Toyota did in a wind tunnel on this particular concept.

pj

If Mr. Toyoda is as interested in this car as it sounds, I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota went above and beyond on the production car.

[tranzformer]

Hopefully Toyota will consider using a liftback for the trunk ala old school CRX/Celica.

[blur]

Another thing that bothers me in the MKIII is the hump on the front wheel arch . . . I'd love it if they lowered it a bit.

And Philip is a hater, lol. He cant believe that cars have functional air vents haha..

[xantonin]

I guess I'm the odd one out this time. What a shame.

Looks like paying off my car early means more money for me and not a new car... :/

[Abflug]

once again THANK YOU HACHI!

very nice concept, I like the wheels

[philip808]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

If Mr. Toyoda is as interested in this car as it sounds, I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota went above and beyond on the production car.

They aren't going to spend a large amount of resources to do testing on a vehicle that will rarely, if ever, attain speeds that would make use of various "aerodynamic" devices. To achieve a price point of $25k, the resources aren't going to be there..and nor should it. This isn't going to be a straightline fast car..probably not even a curvy fast car. It's going to be a light, cheap, easily controlled, fun to drive car. Maybe I'm just getting old and jaded, but sometimes you have to accept reality. The reality is, none of this "stuff" on this car will make an iota of difference in the stock performance. Where are the windshield wipers??

pj

[Want.FR-S]

Although the rear light blocks the trunk opening, if they change the roof design a little bit, and with their promise to carry track gears with fold-flat rear seats, we might be lucky to get a lift-back in this design, which is a big win for me.