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Old 02-10-2023, 05:51 AM   #5965
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Fuel costs and all those people that screamed "the poor truck drivers don't earn enough and should be paid way more" have boosted transport costs to a level that can break some places. It is going to get worse and worse as the companies boost wages to find drivers.
Let's also add in.
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Old 02-10-2023, 06:50 AM   #5966
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Average family income, Canada:
1975: 50k
2015: 70k

Average house price, Toronto:
1975: 60k
2015: ~700k

Average tuition costs, Canada:
1975: $550
2015: $6200

Remember these numbers next time you tell someone younger than you that it just comes down to hard work.
I am well aware of these things. I just thought it was fun to see a sub $300 bill for a complete engine replacement.
But NOOOOO it has to become a "Look how hard us young guys have it shut up boomer" thing.

Even then you are wrong since it appears that you used this site http://www.ccsd.ca/factsheets/fs_avgin.htmlwhich converts all the years into 1995 dollars. The actual median family income in 1975 dollars (which you are showing costs in) was $14,000. Be rich as hell if the average was $50K in 1975.
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Old 02-10-2023, 08:20 AM   #5967
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The actual median family income in 1975 dollars (which you are showing costs in) was $14,000. Be rich as hell if the average was $50K in 1975.
Not to mention that at least in the US $14,000 1975 dollars is the equivalent of, wait for it, about $77,000 in 2023.
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Old 02-10-2023, 08:22 AM   #5968
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I am well aware of these things. I just thought it was fun to see a sub $300 bill for a complete engine replacement.
But NOOOOO it has to become a "Look how hard us young guys have it shut up boomer" thing.

Even then you are wrong since it appears that you used this site http://www.ccsd.ca/factsheets/fs_avgin.htmlwhich converts all the years into 1995 dollars. The actual median family income in 1975 dollars (which you are showing costs in) was $14,000. Be rich as hell if the average was $50K in 1975.

Wouldn't that also mean that the actual median family income in 2015 was higher than $70K?
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Wouldn't that also mean that the actual median family income in 2015 was higher than $70K?
Median income is usually below the average.
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Wouldn't that also mean that the actual median family income in 2015 was higher than $70K?
The whole data stream posted is skewed by dollar values.
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Not to mention that at least in the US $14,000 1975 dollars is the equivalent of, wait for it, about $77,000 in 2023.
Exactly. If you bring everything up to 2023 values it changes everything.
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Let's also add in.
Ship = Lot's of containers.
Truck = Usually a single one.
Unless they are intermodal and they get put on a train for most of their trip.
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I am well aware of these things. I just thought it was fun to see a sub $300 bill for a complete engine replacement.
But NOOOOO it has to become a "Look how hard us young guys have it shut up boomer" thing.

Even then you are wrong since it appears that you used this site http://www.ccsd.ca/factsheets/fs_avgin.htmlwhich converts all the years into 1995 dollars. The actual median family income in 1975 dollars (which you are showing costs in) was $14,000. Be rich as hell if the average was $50K in 1975.
Well, yeah but with the exchange rate...
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Well, yeah but with the exchange rate...
Actually a quick check shows that in 1975 the Canadian dollar was valued at about $1.05 US so it would have cost more in US funds!
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I am well aware of these things. I just thought it was fun to see a sub $300 bill for a complete engine replacement.
But NOOOOO it has to become a "Look how hard us young guys have it shut up boomer" thing.

Even then you are wrong since it appears that you used this site http://www.ccsd.ca/factsheets/fs_avgin.htmlwhich converts all the years into 1995 dollars. The actual median family income in 1975 dollars (which you are showing costs in) was $14,000. Be rich as hell if the average was $50K in 1975.
And free health care?
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And free health care?
No healthcare is free, doesn't matter where you live.
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Actually a quick check shows that in 1975 the Canadian dollar was valued at about $1.05 US so it would have cost more in US funds!
I reject your statement on the grounds that it is inconvenient for my joke.
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