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01-11-2023, 09:37 PM | #1 |
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End of the era
I was told the 86 platform is done, there will be no 2024's. The 86 cars end this year. Local Toyota dealer salesperson/friend told us last night.
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01-11-2023, 10:17 PM | #2 |
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Deadass facts bro? Shiii.
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I asked some pointed questions if this was insider information. She said no, if she knew it is now public info.
I'm in the denial phase right now. Ah well, great run. Aftermarket is still a literal candy store due to the platform overlap with subi. |
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maybe its because the new 86 will launch with a subi engine but rather using Toyota 3 cylinder...
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01-12-2023, 01:25 AM | #5 |
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Maybe because they won't be able to sell it in Europe after 2025? And if that's the case there probably isn't enough of a case to keep producing it for the rest of the markets when production is already rather limited.
I guess if anybody is on the fence, they might want to make the hop.
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01-12-2023, 02:36 AM | #6 |
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how does that make sense? they just made an all new motor, all new molds, and a revised chassis. all to sell 20,000 units at $35k?
if you had told me there wasn't going to be a 2nd gen in early 2022, before they made the new molds, before the new motor, i'd believe you. but now? they're committed to at least a 4-5 years of production, if nothing else, to pay off the molds and design work they committed to the project. but the fact that it's one of the few manual sports cars left, if that was anywhere near official news, every single autoblog would be talking about it. google shows zero results for it.
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01-12-2023, 07:24 AM | #7 |
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Yeah only thing I can imagine is she was confusing what she heard about EU/UK. That’s such a small chunk of the market for this car (not that way more people there wouldn’t have them) that I wouldn’t expect the EU closing the door to it to have any influence on continuing with US/ROW production.
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I think she miss-understood that there won't be other GR86, meaning, Toyota does not have plans to come up with another model. Production years already planned should stay the same, there won't be a 3rd gen. Not as GR in that sense. "Speaking through a translator to Australia's Drive about future GR models, Suezawa said, "There is [sic] none left actually, so this [the GR86] is the last.” It's not clear if he meant the absolute last ever, full stop, or if there are no longer any more in the works at the moment. It's also possible that future sports cars may not fall under the Gazoo Racing brand. It was less than a year ago that Toyota showed what appeared to be a concept for an electric sports car with a mid-"engine" profile. Suezawa went on to pitch the GR Sport lineup, which dresses up more pedestrian models with sportier wheels, aero bits and sometimes suspension tuning á la BMW's M Sport or Mercedes's AMG-Line. “For the GR [performance brand], basically this [the GR86] is the last," he said. "But we have a GR Sport [brand] that we will be [widening] with models like the Corolla, Yaris Cross and C-HR.” https://www.autoblog.com/2022/10/06/...-gr-cars-gr86/ Edit. I could also be very wrong because of the restrictions in Europe going into full effect in 2024. So it wouldn't be feasible for either Subaru/Toyota to keep making it. So in fact, 2023 is probably the last year for current gen. Toyota is already planning a Hybrid for 2025. https://www.carvibz.com/news/next-ge...rid-1-6-turbo/ |
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Like I said, I don't expect the end of EU market for ZN8 to affect plans for the rest of the world. I can't see how that would be a smart thing to do when the demand is still solid, and probably will be for at least a few more years. The only other reason I could imagine would be Subaru kicking them out of Gunma to make space for more profitable stuff there. |
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We saw "this is the last year for the 86/BRZ" stories and insider scoops every single year from 2016 on so this "news" is really not unexpected. If it was to be believed then the car has already been dropped at least 5 times and any of us driving one post 2016 are delusional since they can't exist.
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Yeah, not buying it. The typical salesperson doesn't know shit about cars, they are just there to make money. Nor do I believe click bait websites that are known for being click bait websites.
Nor do I believe Toyota/Subaru is going to make a Hybrid twin.
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Look how long the Focus RS was sold in Europe before they finally brought one to the states.
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