Headlights still bad on 2023

[Dzmitry]

I commented on this in the other thread you had. Doesn't make sense to me, they should be plenty bright. I think you're down to one of three problems.

1. Your standards for how bright they should shine are too high somehow? My 2018 BRZ looks to have brighter headlights than my dads 2020 Crosstrek.
2. Something is wrong with your lights? You're probably the first person I have seen make the complaint since at least the facelift of the previous gen (2017).
3. Your light adjustment isn't correct. Can't tell from your picture, but seems fairly straight. I mentioned before, mine are pointed to where the fine line tends to land right under everybody's rear windshield (with typical cars, not SUV's). This way I'm not blinding anyone unless I'm on a hilly road. To me, I feel like I can see a mile away with how bright my lights shine. I often forget to use my high beams when there's no one around at night as I see plenty fine.

I also come from cars that didn't have LED's before this one. So this is some luxury lighting for me. I can't imagine how your Miata could have MUCH better lighting than the BRZ... something's not right.

[FastLap]

Originally Posted by Dzmitry

I commented on this in the other thread you had. Doesn't make sense to me, they should be plenty bright. I think you're down to one of three problems.

1. Your standards for how bright they should shine are too high somehow? My 2018 BRZ looks to have brighter headlights than my dads 2020 Crosstrek.
2. Something is wrong with your lights? You're probably the first person I have seen make the complaint since at least the facelift of the previous gen (2017).
3. Your light adjustment isn't correct. Can't tell from your picture, but seems fairly straight. I mentioned before, mine are pointed to where the fine line tends to land right under everybody's rear windshield (with typical cars, not SUV's). This way I'm not blinding anyone unless I'm on a hilly road. To me, I feel like I can see a mile away with how bright my lights shine. I often forget to use my high beams when there's no one around at night as I see plenty fine.

I also come from cars that didn't have LED's before this one. So this is some luxury lighting for me. I can't imagine how your Miata could have MUCH better lighting than the BRZ... something's not right.

Right… that’s why I’m thinking something is not right… surely if they were all like this more people would be complaining. The BRZ is like car 30+ for me and has the worst headlight illumination of any of them. Granted I’ve had lots of other cars with HID and LED lighting so just having LEDs on this one aren’t a big improvement to me, but they still seem a lot worse than other cars. Maybe the beams are narrower top to bottom so unless you have them aimed down more the road itself isn’t illuminated much? Not sure but that seems to be some of the issue… the road itself isn’t getting much light, so I see street signs and things reflecting back but I can barely see the actual road.

[Dzmitry]

Originally Posted by FastLap

Right… that’s why I’m thinking something is not right… surely if they were all like this more people would be complaining. The BRZ is like car 30+ for me and has the worst headlight illumination of any of them. Granted I’ve had lots of other cars with HID and LED lighting so just having LEDs on this one aren’t a big improvement to me, but they still seem a lot worse than other cars. Maybe the beams are narrower top to bottom so unless you have them aimed down more the road itself isn’t illuminated much? Not sure but that seems to be some of the issue… the road itself isn’t getting much light, so I see street signs and things reflecting back but I can barely see the actual road.

Should park the car out in a lot or somewhere open and get a picture of the illumination you're getting from the inside and outside at different angles at night. I'm just curious at this point.

[FastLap]

Originally Posted by Dzmitry

Should park the car out in a lot or somewhere open and get a picture of the illumination you're getting from the inside and outside at different angles at night. I'm just curious at this point.

I might give that a shot. It’s tricky for comparison since my phone camera tends to try and brighten things up on its own.

[OkieSnuffBox]

I'd run by the dealership and ask them to check that they are properly aligned.

[DriveDriftDogfight86]

It's a brand new car...it has a whole ass warranty...

If the headlights don't work good, dealer.
If it doesn't smell right, dealer.
If it doesn't look back at me how I thought it would, dealer.

Meanwhile you're over here making multiple threads about the same issue.

[FastLap]

Originally Posted by DriveDriftDogfight86

It's a brand new car...it has a whole ass warranty...

If the headlights don't work good, dealer.
If it doesn't smell right, dealer.
If it doesn't look back at me how I thought it would, dealer.

Meanwhile you're over here making multiple threads about the same issue.

The thinking for something like this is: Maybe this is a simple fix that others have experienced that I can do at home in 5 minutes versus spending hours or days dealing with the dealer. If it was an obvious warranty item then of course I’d take it to the dealer but maybe they are just aimed wrong or the lights are just like this on the BRZ compared to other cars.

[22 BRZ]

Originally Posted by FastLap

Your test is much easier... curious to see if everybody's are at 26 inches.

For what its worth, mine are the same height over the same range, but this test probably isn't accurate enough to say for sure that your lights aren't aimed wrong.

[FastLap]

Originally Posted by 22 BRZ

For what its worth, mine are the same height over the same range, but this test probably isn't accurate enough to say for sure that your lights aren't aimed wrong.

Okay, thanks for checking. I really need to do a comparison with the other cars side by side. The weird thing to me is the Miata is about the same height/seating position and seems much brighter. The other cars that sit higher in general I could see how they might seem better but the BRZ just seems so much dimmer overall. Weird.

[22 BRZ]

Originally Posted by FastLap

Okay, thanks for checking. I really need to do a comparison with the other cars side by side. The weird thing to me is the Miata is about the same height/seating position and seems much brighter. The other cars that sit higher in general I could see how they might seem better but the BRZ just seems so much dimmer overall. Weird.

How are the high beams?

[x808drifter]

Originally Posted by FastLap

The thinking for something like this is: Maybe this is a simple fix that others have experienced that I can do at home in 5 minutes versus spending hours or days dealing with the dealer. If it was an obvious warranty item then of course I’d take it to the dealer but maybe they are just aimed wrong or the lights are just like this on the BRZ compared to other cars.

Does an entire post about how to do this yourself properly for cheap. Get's ignored.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by FastLap

It’s definitely not anything with conditions, or eyesight, or seeing over the steering wheel. I also have a Miata, Crosstrek (with halogen lights), and Tesla Model 3, and all of those cars are much much better at night as far as headlights go. Definitely something specific to the BRZ… not sure if it’s aiming or if there’s just a light output or beam pattern problem.

Is the cut off messing with your head.
It took me a while to get used to the LEDs on the 2020.

Sort of:
Bright
Bright
Bright
NOTHING.

The section that is bright is very, almost overly, bright and then when the cut off kick in nothing at all.
Don't get that affect with halogens.

[jetvermillion]

the brz has an auto leveler. maybe itmalfunctioned and it's not aimed at the right ehight

[Desertnate]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Is the cut off messing with your head.
It took me a while to get used to the LEDs on the 2020.

Sort of:
Bright
Bright
Bright
NOTHING.

The section that is bright is very, almost overly, bright and then when the cut off kick in nothing at all.
Don't get that affect with halogens.

This is taking me a while to get used to. The cut off is sharper than any of the HID's I've had in the past, and like you say, far different that what is experienced with halogen lights.