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Old 01-03-2023, 06:30 PM   #4243
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NVIDIA announced the 4070 ti at CES as if we didn't expect it. But still!
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That's all great. I have very limited knowledge as this will be my first time. I did get the same RAM, but I only have a semi modulare 750w PSU from my current PC that I am going to try and use to keep cost down, but we'll see how it goes.

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semi modular is fine, it'll still help considerably with cable management, especially if your case is on the smaller size.

RAM used to be super sensitive to brands and timings but not so much nowadays. However when using multiple sticks, (and you should, when using at least 2 sticks the computer runs in dual channel mode which has something like 30% more performance over a single stick in single channel mode) they should to be paired appropriately (same speed, same timings, same brand), and placed in the slots appropriately as well. You'll notice that most RAM kits come like this.

If the motherboard has 2 RAM slots, thats a no brainer. If it has 4, they're usually labelled A1/A2, and B1/B2, and the slots are usually colour matched.

You want to pair them as A1/B1 (A2/B2), which would also be the colour match.
I think you can pair them as A1/A2 if you want but its supposed to be better when they're colour matched (i stopped reading/caring about the intricacies about why things are the way they are....so i just set it up the way the manual would tell me is the ideal way)

I think you can still pair 2 random sticks together, but in the computer world everything will run at the level of the weakest link (so if there are 2 speeds of ram, it'll run using the specs of the slower one). And having 2 completely different sticks may not efficiently.
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semi modular is fine, it'll still help considerably with cable management, especially if your case is on the smaller size.

RAM used to be super sensitive to brands and timings but not so much nowadays. However when using multiple sticks, (and you should, when using at least 2 sticks the computer runs in dual channel mode which has something like 30% more performance over a single stick in single channel mode) they should to be paired appropriately (same speed, same timings, same brand), and placed in the slots appropriately as well. You'll notice that most RAM kits come like this.

If the motherboard has 2 RAM slots, thats a no brainer. If it has 4, they're usually labelled A1/A2, and B1/B2, and the slots are usually colour matched.

You want to pair them as A1/B1 (A2/B2), which would also be the colour match.
I think you can pair them as A1/A2 if you want but its supposed to be better when they're colour matched (i stopped reading/caring about the intricacies about why things are the way they are....so i just set it up the way the manual would tell me is the ideal way)

I think you can still pair 2 random sticks together, but in the computer world everything will run at the level of the weakest link (so if there are 2 speeds of ram, it'll run using the specs of the slower one). And having 2 completely different sticks may not efficiently.
*Except with DDR5...
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*Except with DDR5...
Yeah i know nothing about DDR5, since it just came out..... :p
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Old 01-04-2023, 10:43 AM   #4248
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But the age old question, is 16GB enough RAM or is 32 the new standard?!
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But the age old question, is 16GB enough RAM or is 32 the new standard?!
I would say 8GB is the minimum to run Win10, 16GB is the ideal, and theres always room for 32gb

I'd also say that if your system RAM is equal to the amount of GPU RAM you have, its time to upgrade that system RAM

My main Rig is a Ryzen 5 2600X @ 3.6ghz, 16GB DDR4 RAM and a Radeon RX6600 8gb.

And I have another retired work PC that I inherited and will use that as a living room "console" PC. It was equipped with an intel i7 3770, 16GB DDR3, Nvidia Geforce 440 GT, 1TB HD and a generic 350watt PSU which seems underspecced but somehow didnt burn out.
I have replaced the PSU with a 750 watt unit, the HD with a 980gb SSD, and the GPU with a 4GB Radeon 290

I had a 1TB nvme SSD i had lying around that i wanted to use for this but the PC is so old it doesn't even have an NVME slot. So now i'll put it in my main rig.

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Oh I just like joking about the RAM thing since it’s always that controversial subject. Like thermal paste amount lol
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Oh I just like joking about the RAM thing since it’s always that controversial subject. Like thermal paste amount lol
Well the answer is clearly MOAR RAMS!!!!!
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Old 01-04-2023, 12:17 PM   #4252
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Here's what my build is looking like so far.

Ryzen 5600x
MSI B550-A Pro mobo
Nvidia 3060ti
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 (2x8Gb 3600mhz)
Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo cpu cooler
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Gonna keep whatever SSD/HDD I have for now, but need to upgrade as their fairly small. I think the SDD is 256 or 512 and the HDD is 1TB.


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I have a bunch of fans and other parts I can send you if you want them. Better thermal paste, AIO pump, etc.
Appreciate the offer but I think I'm good. I have a couple Noctua fans in my current case that I'll move over. Also not going the water cooled route, trying to keep it simple for the time being.

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semi modular is fine, it'll still help considerably with cable management, especially if your case is on the smaller size.

RAM used to be super sensitive to brands and timings but not so much nowadays. However when using multiple sticks, (and you should, when using at least 2 sticks the computer runs in dual channel mode which has something like 30% more performance over a single stick in single channel mode) they should to be paired appropriately (same speed, same timings, same brand), and placed in the slots appropriately as well. You'll notice that most RAM kits come like this.

If the motherboard has 2 RAM slots, thats a no brainer. If it has 4, they're usually labelled A1/A2, and B1/B2, and the slots are usually colour matched.

You want to pair them as A1/B1 (A2/B2), which would also be the colour match.
I think you can pair them as A1/A2 if you want but its supposed to be better when they're colour matched (i stopped reading/caring about the intricacies about why things are the way they are....so i just set it up the way the manual would tell me is the ideal way)

I think you can still pair 2 random sticks together, but in the computer world everything will run at the level of the weakest link (so if there are 2 speeds of ram, it'll run using the specs of the slower one). And having 2 completely different sticks may not efficiently.
Yeah, the RAM i bought came as 2x8GB. Figured Id start with 16Gb and go from there. Compared to my 8Gb of DDR3 currently I'm sure it'll be fine lmao
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Here's what my build is looking like so far.

Ryzen 5600x
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Nvidia 3060ti
Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 (2x8Gb 3600mhz)
Cooler Master Hyper212 Evo cpu cooler
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Corsair 220t case

Gonna keep whatever SSD/HDD I have for now, but need to upgrade as their fairly small. I think the SDD is 256 or 512 and the HDD is 1TB.




Appreciate the offer but I think I'm good. I have a couple Noctua fans in my current case that I'll move over. Also not going the water cooled route, trying to keep it simple for the time being.



Yeah, the RAM i bought came as 2x8GB. Figured Id start with 16Gb and go from there. Compared to my 8Gb of DDR3 currently I'm sure it'll be fine lmao



No problem. I'd say that is a very fair build. That CPU and GPU will offer plenty of performance. As for SDD, Samsung 970\980 Pros should be fairly cheap now and allow for faster load times and bigger storage. ADATA XPG PRO is also a very solid one too. Do keep in mind that newer games nowadays, at minimum, take up to 50GB, so you can run out space fairly quick. 16GB of RAM is pretty good, I have the same one as you.



Other than that, I like the build. Post some pictures once you're done!
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Well the answer is clearly MOAR RAMS!!!!!
Sounds like a typical modern software engineering answer lol.
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Sounds like a typical modern software engineering answer lol.

Well I paid for 4 RAM slots, so I WILL USE ALL 4 RAM SLOTS.
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Well I paid for 4 RAM slots, so I WILL USE ALL 4 RAM SLOTS.
Might slow things down!
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