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To be fair man made climate change is yet another religion with no more basis in science and even less basis in fact. So, the mixing of the faiths in the overall discussion seem appropriate at this point.
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lol, this thread would be a lot better if you had to have a higher than room temperature IQ to post in it
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https://www.solaris-shop.com/history-of-solar-energy/ https://zipitclean.com/inventions-in...n-tv-invented/ Read up. Lithium-sulfur is probably the next thing, and then I could see sodium-sulfur "low grade" batteries being another option. Quote:
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What you said, everyone at one point said about germ theory, evolutionary theory, cell theory, big bang theory, theory of relativity, etc. Anthropomorphic climate change is supported through multiple scientific disciplines and by the vast majority of climate scientists. Calling it a religion is like calling belief in the germ theory or in the theory of plate tectonics a religion. Religions exist in the absence of evidence and dogmatically hold onto their position irregardless of new evidence. On the germ theory side, the religious perspective is actually the antivaxxers and their autism-vaccine pseudoscience beliefs. What you said is like me debating an antivaxxer, and you saying, "To be fair the germ theory is yet another religion with no more basis in science and even less basis in fact. So, the mixing of the faiths in the overall discussion seem appropriate at this point." I hope you see how ridiculous that statement sounds when rephrased with another, different, well-support, scientific theory, but maybe you are an antivaxxer, so maybe I'm just "speaking" to a brick wall here. We have gone over the evidence ad nauseam for each person who claimed to know more than the climate scientists, but if you feel like getting an education on the subject, just read through the thread. There is a lot of data here.
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You might like this one. The short of it is they are coupling a higher temperature nuclear reactor with hydrogen production to control/use the high heat of the reactor by using it for hydrogen production, which requires higher heat than standard nuclear reactors, all making for a very green system. Hydrogen from a source as green as nuclear might make FCEVs competitive to BEVs for end-of-life carbon emissions, even if BEVs turn to lithium-sulfur and/or sodium/sulfur batteries, lowering their green footprint initially and over the life of the car, as they would have a longer battery life. Converting the infrastructure would take a little more time, and I don't know if they have to create desalination plants or are taking fresh water, but this could give planes, towing trucks, interstate trucks, distance travelers and anyone not living at a residence with a plug for their car to have an alternative vehicle.
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Ahhhh...a Mr. Fusion Home Energy Reactor might be the answer!
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Again, there are people arguing the world is flat and who say there are conspiracies to hide what they believe is the obviousness that the world is flat. They also say the same things you just said. They present counter arguments. How do you say scientists are correct about the world being a globe or about the germ theory or about evolution, but that they are wrong about anthropogenic climate change? I’m assuming you except those other theories. Are you applying greater skepticism to this one issue or what convinces you of one thing and not another? If I said 2% of scientific papers show no link between smoking a lung disease then would you believe the 2%? I can’t tell what criteria people are using to believe one thing and deny another thing because it doesn’t seem consistent at all. https://news.climate.columbia.edu/20...s-not-natural/ Here is a review article discussing the 3% of papers that don’t show anthropogenic climate change, which suggests the number is actually 100%, and there is a news article discussing the same study in a more palatable way. Learning from mistakes in climate research https://link.springer.com/article/10...704-015-1597-5 https://qz.com/1069298/the-3-of-scie...re-all-flawed/
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Seems like this is more than a California perspective:
30% Of Americans Cite Climate Change As A Motivator To Move In 2022 https://www.forbes.com/home-improvem...limate-change/ Nearly three quarters of Americans believe humans can reduce climate change but aren’t willing to change their behaviors https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-pol...ther-poll-2022 Quote:
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I had a quick look at The Flat Earth Society website. There is a lot of information there but I got bored very quickly due to reading some of the "proofs" posited.
A couple of things (which I think I've already stated here) come to mind when looking at such websites. Firstly, it is a closed club; you are either a member of the club or you are not. Which is true for all conspiracy clubs. Secondly, and this quote is from a link you posted above (Learning from mistakes in climate research), "We also argue that science is never settled and that both mainstream and contrarian papers must be subject to sustained scrutiny". The conspiracy clubs will not take on new information/evidence. "Look, here is some evidence pointing towards the earth being spherical". "No, that is fabricated data, the earth is flat."
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