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10-12-2022, 12:56 PM | #29 | |
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If you're stuck behind traffic, slow down, and make yourself a gap, or re-grid and find yourself a gap. |
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That's exactly my point, I'm supposed to be gridded behind cars faster than me, not slower, that contradiction is exactly my complaint. What's the point of gridding by lap time if I immediately have to re-grid myself as if it was normal traffic.
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Do you think you were gridded by lap time correctly?
Do they adjust gridding for each session based on lap time? And, if so, best time of the day or previous session?
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Agreed with the above, it sounds like something isn't working properly.
Locally in TT we grid by time in the last session. If you think you're going to run up on someone you leave space on the out lap, if you want a tow from the person ahead of you that you think is a little quicker then stay a bit closer. It does suck if you miss a session and you're at the back of the grid, but you can usually still get a clean lap or two by leaving a gap greater than your lap delta. Either way, it is better than open gridding where you inevitably get people in a power car that can't drive worth a shit gridding up front.
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If you are legitimately faster, strategize, put down a faster lap time, and ratchet ahead of them in grid. And call out folks not giving you point bys. |
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If everyone is gridding properly, and you happen to be faster than the person in front of you at the time, you have some options. If I were you, I'd just make a small gap between you and the car in front that you're legitimately faster than at the time, lay down a faster lap than him, and "pass him in the pits." It's a great way to get open space and be gridded ahead of him in the next session. Or, if you know you're going to be faster than that person, leave yourself a little space on the out lap and you should have a clean session. Problem solved, and no one even needs to make a pass on track.
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This is why I run with Chin normally in Florida.. 3 hours a day for $370 or whatever it is now vs 80-100 minutes for 250-275... and driving quality (at least in red) is far superior to what PCA (100% of the time), PBOC (90%), and NASA (depends on group here.. some HPDE groups are terrible but HPDE 4 seems like it CAN be OK at times). And TNIA with SCCA.. I don't bother.
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Years ago I did have the same experience with SV at LS. No transponder so IIRC you self reported new laptimes.. I don't think everyone was completely honest..
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While more expensive, you do get a lot of seat time. I don't remember how much more I paid when I tried it, but I believe it was less than 2x more. Looking at their upcoming SoW event, 1 run group is $179 and 2 run groups is $330. Given that any BW/SoW event includes almost a full day of driving for me, and staying at a hotel... adding the 2nd run group doesn't make it a lot more expensive in the grand scheme of things. Last time I tried that, I didn't (need to) use all the time I got on track. As an added bonus, I could join any session a few minutes late and asked the grid worker to help me find a gap to join. Also as soon as my tires got too hot I'd comfortably do a couple of cooldown laps, and go back to the paddock without waiting for the checkered. (Not that I'm a fan of 7 run groups!)
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Yeah the idea seemed smart when I went there but in practice at that event it seemed just as bad as any other event. I just go out usually after 1-2 laps are completed so I don't have to point by 19 GT3RS, 8 GT3, 4 radicals and a couple Z06s when I drive the FRS in adv lol There's always 2-3 other slow cars to play with at least.
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