Gen 2 Transmission in a Gen 1 Car - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

jacobe38 · 05-17-2022, 12:08 PM

Is it possible? Do we know yet?

Allegedly the new transmission has stronger gears and iirc better shifting feel or something like that

would be pretty neat if it would bolt into gen 1 with little or no modifications.

anybody know?

dynarun55 · 05-17-2022, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacobe38

Is it possible? Do we know yet?

Allegedly the new transmission has stronger gears and iirc better shifting feel or something like that

would be pretty neat if it would bolt into gen 1 with little or no modifications.

anybody know?

Would love to know. And if it is true I expect to see bidding wars on wrecked 22 BRZs lol

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dragoontwo · 05-17-2022, 12:36 PM

It's the same transmission case. The only thing that might be different is the plugs on the 2 sensors. That is an easy fix though.

Mike_ZN6 · 05-17-2022, 12:47 PM

It is looking like the Gen 2 block and transmission will bolt right up to the same mounts. I think there are many people just waiting for someone to do the swap first and figure out the details.

Jdmjunkie · 05-17-2022, 02:10 PM

I saw a post on Minkara that showed it had already been don in Japan.

jacobe38 · 05-17-2022, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdmjunkie

I saw a post on Minkara that showed it had already been don in Japan.

i couldn't find it, could you share it if you have a link?

Jdmjunkie · 05-17-2022, 08:26 PM

Minkara

I searched and found this link. It is not the original article but it seem that it is becoming more popular.

jacobe38 · 05-17-2022, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jdmjunkie

https://minkara.carview.co.jp/smart/userid/1589406/car/1180005/6839728/note.aspx

I searched and found this link. It is not the original article but it seem that it is becoming more popular.

whoa amazing find, thank you!!

officially on the look out now

Espi · 05-17-2022, 11:57 PM

Pretty awesome. Wonder if same for AT lol

Evil Rocky · 05-18-2022, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdmjunkie

https://minkara.carview.co.jp/smart/userid/1589406/car/1180005/6839728/note.aspx

I searched and found this link. It is not the original article but it seem that it is becoming more popular.

Article link broken.

But I too hope this transmission is better

Jdmjunkie · 05-18-2022, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Rocky

Article link broken.

But I too hope this transmission is better

I fixed the link. I made the link backwards.

bhmax · 10-08-2022, 01:20 PM

Putting this here since it looks like this was the last talk of this. My ‘13 has bad 3rd and 4th synchros so I’m swapping in a ‘22 trans. Some interesting things so far. I forgot how flimsy the stock mount seems. I’m swapping in my STI mount. The lever retainer where it attaches to the trans has more movement than I would have expected. Swapping in the aftermarket outer bushings that I had been using to tighten that up, in addition to my used Perrin rear bushing. The older control shaft is held in place on each end by a clip, whereas the new one has a snap ring on the rear where the shifter attaches. Possibly to help eliminate some rattles? The shift springs have the same paint on them old and new, so possibly exactly the same. I’m putting the used Mtec springs in. I’ll also be putting in Verus fork, pivot, and the used STI shifter.

FrickingReallySlow · 10-09-2022, 01:04 AM

How much did you pay for the trans? Was it from a totaled ‘22 recycler

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhmax

Putting this here since it looks like this was the last talk of this. My ‘13 has bad 3rd and 4th synchros so I’m swapping in a ‘22 trans. Some interesting things so far. I forgot how flimsy the stock mount seems. I’m swapping in my STI mount. The lever retainer where it attaches to the trans has more movement than I would have expected. Swapping in the aftermarket outer bushings that I had been using to tighten that up, in addition to my used Perrin rear bushing. The older control shaft is held in place on each end by a clip, whereas the new one has a snap ring on the rear where the shifter attaches. Possibly to help eliminate some rattles? The shift springs have the same paint on them old and new, so possibly exactly the same. I’m putting the used Mtec springs in. I’ll also be putting in Verus fork, pivot, and the used STI shifter.

DarkPira7e · 10-09-2022, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bhmax

. My ‘13 has bad 3rd and 4th synchros so I’m swapping in a ‘22 trans.

Let us know how it goes! I saw one on eBay and almost bought it to see how it holds up to 400wtq

05-17-2022, 12:08 PM	#1
jacobe38 @slothbrz on IG Join Date: Jul 2020 Drives: Track BRZ - Supercharged Location: MI Posts: 134 Thanks: 24 Thanked 56 Times in 28 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Gen 2 Transmission in a Gen 1 Car Is it possible? Do we know yet? Allegedly the new transmission has stronger gears and iirc better shifting feel or something like that would be pretty neat if it would bolt into gen 1 with little or no modifications. anybody know?

05-17-2022, 08:26 PM	#7
Jdmjunkie Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Drives: Scion FR-S 10 Series Location: Las Vegas, Nev. Posts: 341 Thanks: 1,839 Thanked 204 Times in 128 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Minkara I searched and found this link. It is not the original article but it seem that it is becoming more popular. Last edited by Jdmjunkie; 05-18-2022 at 06:24 PM. Reason: Fixed link

10-08-2022, 01:20 PM	#12
bhmax Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Drives: 13 BRZ, 16 FiST, 05 WRX Location: AL Posts: 291 Thanks: 377 Thanked 96 Times in 68 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Putting this here since it looks like this was the last talk of this. My ‘13 has bad 3rd and 4th synchros so I’m swapping in a ‘22 trans. Some interesting things so far. I forgot how flimsy the stock mount seems. I’m swapping in my STI mount. The lever retainer where it attaches to the trans has more movement than I would have expected. Swapping in the aftermarket outer bushings that I had been using to tighten that up, in addition to my used Perrin rear bushing. The older control shaft is held in place on each end by a clip, whereas the new one has a snap ring on the rear where the shifter attaches. Possibly to help eliminate some rattles? The shift springs have the same paint on them old and new, so possibly exactly the same. I’m putting the used Mtec springs in. I’ll also be putting in Verus fork, pivot, and the used STI shifter. Attached Images

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