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Old 08-04-2022, 02:10 AM   #2871
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I've heard that it's best to get in line before @Ultramaroon -
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Old 08-04-2022, 02:52 AM   #2872
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Hey, you gonna eat that?
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Old 08-04-2022, 07:29 AM   #2873
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Hey, you gonna eat that?
"Oh look a chicken wing on the floor"
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Old 08-04-2022, 08:25 AM   #2874
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TIL that the MT vs AT debate looks like a friendly discussion over tea compared to the "No EV no way" crowd that drops in on the EV threads in the Cadillac forums.

My favorite one is the guy who says he takes a very long road trip several times a year and that an EV would turn it from a 12 hour drive into a day and a half or 2 day drive. When you explain to him that the only difference between driving an EV and ICE are charge times vs fill-ups, and then proceed to show him using Tesla's road planning software (because he says the only EV he would consider is a Model S Long Range) that the difference is about two hours with six stops between 10 minutes and 40 minutes, he just basically says "don't try to confuse me with your facts".

Can't believe I'm actually defending EVs now.
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TIL that the MT vs AT debate looks like a friendly discussion over tea compared to the "No EV no way" crowd that drops in on the EV threads in the Cadillac forums.

My favorite one is the guy who says he takes a very long road trip several times a year and that an EV would turn it from a 12 hour drive into a day and a half or 2 day drive. When you explain to him that the only difference between driving an EV and ICE are charge times vs fill-ups, and then proceed to show him using Tesla's road planning software (because he says the only EV he would consider is a Model S Long Range) that the difference is about two hours with six stops between 10 minutes and 40 minutes, he just basically says "don't try to confuse me with your facts.

Can't believe I'm actually defending EVs now.
This is exactly the same issue I had when trying to talk the wife into going EV. She is convinced that the charging tech has not advanced since about 1995 and every EV takes a minimum of 8 hours to charge. No amount of proof that is not true will change her thoughts. The reality is that her normal use is almost the text book perfect example of the benefits of an EV.
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Old 08-04-2022, 12:09 PM   #2876
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nom nom nom....
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Old 08-04-2022, 12:16 PM   #2877
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nom nom nom....
Need to wash that down.

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This is exactly the same issue I had when trying to talk the wife into going EV. She is convinced that the charging tech has not advanced since about 1995 and every EV takes a minimum of 8 hours to charge. No amount of proof that is not true will change her thoughts. The reality is that her normal use is almost the text book perfect example of the benefits of an EV.
My wife drives a Volt, but really liked the Bolt better. We've definitely taken a few trips where the BRZ wasn't an option (I'd have to change the AP Sprint brakes out to drive in winter storms) and charging would be a challenge (far enough off the beaten path to visit family) but at this point, the use case that sticks out is (pre-Volt) when she had to pick me up from the event where my first BRZ was wrecked. She'd already been out doing stuff, and would not have felt comfortable saying "oh, wait an hour so I can charge"... and that would still have been an option, but she might have waited till the drive back when I nearly passed out both trying to cough and discovering that my ribs REALLY didn't want to let me cough (I evidently had worse contusions as a passenger than the driver... maybe that makes sense, I don't know)

Not driving outside the electric range at all these days. Summers it's 50miles, winters 40ish.

Biggest challenge is non-Tesla charging options are still wildly inconsistent and often crappy or unavailable even when hardware exists.
But what really gets me is that the typical loud and obnoxious "never ever don't force that on me" are the ones that want more stoplight power to win those every-day races - something electric delivers in spades.
So no idea what the real issue is.
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he just basically says "don't try to confuse me with your facts".
I suspect this is an issue that many subjects/topics/arguments are prone to.
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In case any of you were curious who really sang Funkytown.

Ya the "group's" name is sort of a dead giveaway
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Ya the "group's" name is sort of a dead giveaway
I just think Cynthia deserved to be mentioned. She belts it out. Here she is with the band's creator, and the writer of funkytown, Steven Greenberg.
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This is exactly the same issue I had when trying to talk the wife into going EV. She is convinced that the charging tech has not advanced since about 1995 and every EV takes a minimum of 8 hours to charge. No amount of proof that is not true will change her thoughts. The reality is that her normal use is almost the text book perfect example of the benefits of an EV.
I'd totally consider a "small" EV for running around town if I had a 3-car garage.
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