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Dadhawk · 05-12-2022, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

The front of the Z reminds me of this emoji.

It makes me think the designers started at the back and were going to miss the design deadline as they were getting to the front so they drew a few straight lines and said "good enough".

NoHaveMSG · 05-12-2022, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

It makes me think the designers started at the back and were going to miss the design deadline as they were getting to the front so they drew a few straight lines and said "good enough".

It looks great from every direction but the front to me. I would still drive it though except it is a modern Nissan.

gymratter · 05-12-2022, 02:28 PM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...expected.1092/

vh_supra26 · 05-12-2022, 04:49 PM

Here's a clearer photo.

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...-trailer.1109/

gymratter · 05-14-2022, 04:14 PM

U.S. Pricing Possibly Leaked in 2023 Nissan Z Review: $40K Base, $50K Performance, $53K Proto

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...3k-proto.1116/

Teseo · 05-14-2022, 10:24 PM

That escalated quickly... I can see dealerships jacking up the prices. Wonder how much cost the manual Zupra

gymratter · 05-16-2022, 02:03 AM

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...oto-spec.1127/

Irace86.2.0 · 05-16-2022, 02:22 AM

spcmafia · 05-16-2022, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gymratter

https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...oto-spec.1127/

Reading at what the difference between Sport and Per is, the Performance isn't really a great deal. You get a lot of car for $40K.

WolfpackS2k · 05-16-2022, 09:27 AM

^If it doesn't have the LSD and upgraded brakes I'd disagree. HOWEVER, for $10k you can get a pretty nice aftermarket LSD and BBK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teseo

That escalated quickly... I can see dealerships jacking up the prices. Wonder how much cost the manual Zupra

What escalated quickly? These prices are dead on what we expected. Manual Supra is probably going to be $60k.

Tcoat · 05-16-2022, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

The front of the Z reminds me of this emoji.

Somebody really needs to make some trim or fogs to fill in those vast expanses of blank space on either side of the grill!

Dake · 05-16-2022, 12:59 PM

I've said it elsewhere, but the more I look at these, the more I realize there's not enough "more" for me personally to choose the Z (or the Supra) over the GR86. Sure, I'll be slower off the stoplight. Who cares? There's always someone faster. In the meantime, the $10k-$20k I've saved buys a lot of gas, tires, and track days.

bcj · 05-16-2022, 01:11 PM

Gosh. It'll be losing stoplight races to moms' mini-van.
Where have I heard that before?

Ohio Enthusiast · 05-16-2022, 02:10 PM

Lightest trim according the Savagegeese is 3486 lbs (for base manual). According to their dash shots it looks like the gearing/final drive of the manual are the same as the 370z (which one Nissan rep said they share the same gearbox with some minor updates in synchros for 1st and 2nd).

Hagerty with Cammisa drag raced an automatic Z with a Supra (presumably the 3 liter version) and a Mustang Mach 1, and the Z lost by quite a margin. Then they drag raced the manual Z with the automatic Z and the manual was slower still (which is to be expected with modern automatics).

I haven't read/watched too many reviews, but Savagegeese have praised the updates on the new Z vs. the 370z.

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