2019 Toyota Corolla Hatchback & Sedan - Page 28 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

WolfpackS2k · 03-25-2022, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Westen86

How likely is that 3cyl going to make it into the US? Not to mention with markups, thats going to be a $50-60k car. Im betting its going for the CTR market with FWD. The Focus is dead, Evo dead, Sti dead. Civic Type R and Veloster N are going to be its competition.

Prediction: No 3cyl, FWD Hybrid focused on power. Think 260hp Honda CRZ.

My prediction: 100% certain the US market GR Corolla is going to have the 3 cylinder turbo with close to 300 hp, AWD and a 6sp manual. MSRP under $40k.

Markups and the stupidity of the market at the moment will probably make it difficult to find around MSRP (and available at all). But give the industry another 1-2 years and things should have settled down a bit.

weederr33 · 03-25-2022, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Westen86

How likely is that 3cyl going to make it into the US? Not to mention with markups, thats going to be a $50-60k car. Im betting its going for the CTR market with FWD. The Focus is dead, Evo dead, Sti dead. Civic Type R and Veloster N are going to be its competition.

Prediction: No 3cyl, FWD Hybrid focused on power. Think 260hp Honda CRZ.

I see nothing wrong with your prediction, so what's the problem?

spcmafia · 03-25-2022, 02:20 PM

My concern is that US being US, will dumb down the GR Corolla with all the restrictions and what not, and we'll end up getting the equivalent of the Turbo Mazda 3, which yes, is AWD, AT, but even with the turbo is not exactly thrilling to drive. So the GR Corolla could be MT, AWD, with maybe a bigger or same engine but it will have so much BS from the regulations that we'll be paying a premium just because it has GR slapped on it and end up with a car that offers medium thrills.

weederr33 · 03-25-2022, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spcmafia

My concern is that US being US, will dumb down the GR Corolla with all the restrictions and what not, and we'll end up getting the equivalent of the Turbo Mazda 3, which yes, is AWD, AT, but even with the turbo is not exactly thrilling to drive. So the GR Corolla could be MT, AWD, with maybe a bigger or same engine but it will have so much BS from the regulations that we'll be paying a premium just because it has GR slapped on it and end up with a car that offers medium thrills.

I mean if it's bogged down by it's tuning that's an easy fix. But time will tell.

bcj · 03-25-2022, 03:56 PM

If they stuff it with "Steering Insist" that can't be turned off permanently, that's a hard NO!

Tcoat · 03-25-2022, 03:58 PM

I predict that no matter what it actually turns out to be 50% of the people here with think it is total crap and the other 50% will think it is the best vehicle ever made. There will be virtually no middle ground.

I predict anything that makes it here will just be a moderate HP increase, aero everywhere, AT only, modified appliance car with a nice premium price attached to it.

Brz-123 · 03-25-2022, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

The FN2 Type R that we got here in OZ (10 or so years ago, 2007-2011 to be exact) is not in the same league as the FK8 or the old DC2 or even the DC5 Integra Type Rs.

For Toyota 10 or so years ago the 86 was just being released, 11 years ago it wasn’t around. Evos and WRX STIs were though.

Sorry. I thought you were in States

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Westen86 · 03-25-2022, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

I predict that no matter what it actually turns out to be 50% of the people here with think it is total crap and the other 50% will think it is the best vehicle ever made. There will be virtually no middle ground.

I predict anything that makes it here will just be a moderate HP increase, aero everywhere, AT only, modified appliance car with a nice premium price attached to it.

I also think this.

It will either be a FWD Hyperhatch, or the equivalent of a Tacoma TRD Pro

dpfarr · 03-25-2022, 05:20 PM

I think it’d be great to have a Toyota reliable turbo hatch. However, I cannot imagine we’ll see anything lightweight and engaging spec wise like the GR Yaris.

Hopefully it’s not going to have what the is200 have. Sure it’s tunable but it’s not producing much even then.

Tcoat · 03-25-2022, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Westen86

I also think this.

It will either be a FWD Hyperhatch, or the equivalent of a Tacoma TRD Pro

GR is the new TRD. Lost all true meaning and is just a marketing buzzword (well initials)

strat61caster · 03-26-2022, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by weederr33

I mean if it's bogged down by it's tuning that's an easy fix. But time will tell.

It’s already bogged down by a Corolla body.

weederr33 · 03-26-2022, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

It’s already bogged down by a Corolla body.

Nah. It's not.

dpfarr · 03-26-2022, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by weederr33

Nah. It's not.

A boosted 3 pot does get bogged down by weight.

Veloist · 03-26-2022, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by strat61caster

It’s already bogged down by a Corolla body.

Have you driven a 19+ Corolla Hatchback?

I put ~19,000 mi on mine in a year. To me its only flaw is its light steering weight, which is a waste because it has a quick steering ratio. Otherwise it’s a very solid daily driver. Goes around corners very well too.

03-25-2022, 02:20 PM	#381
spcmafia Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Drives: 2018 Subaru BRZ Location: Stonington, Connecticut Posts: 3,417 Thanks: 1,569 Thanked 4,254 Times in 2,061 Posts Mentioned: 26 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My concern is that US being US, will dumb down the GR Corolla with all the restrictions and what not, and we'll end up getting the equivalent of the Turbo Mazda 3, which yes, is AWD, AT, but even with the turbo is not exactly thrilling to drive. So the GR Corolla could be MT, AWD, with maybe a bigger or same engine but it will have so much BS from the regulations that we'll be paying a premium just because it has GR slapped on it and end up with a car that offers medium thrills. __________________ “God gave me an okay mind, but a really good ass, which can feel everything in a car.” Nikki Lauda

03-25-2022, 03:58 PM	#384
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,295 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	I predict that no matter what it actually turns out to be 50% of the people here with think it is total crap and the other 50% will think it is the best vehicle ever made. There will be virtually no middle ground. I predict anything that makes it here will just be a moderate HP increase, aero everywhere, AT only, modified appliance car with a nice premium price attached to it. __________________ Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.

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