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Old 03-15-2022, 03:41 PM   #15
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Since header, tune, and "better fuel" (E85) was mentioned, I believe @Blighty was referring to this link, which does advertise such gain. The link you provided is specific to headers and tune only.

https://www.delicioustuning.com/node/522

Yep you’re right, I linked the wrong page.

Still, keep in mind that not all headers are the same. The ACE header is well known to provide ~15 more HP than a more generic header. E85 gains also don’t stack one for one with the header gains, and even that will depend on the header too.
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They never advertised 45hp peak gains, they don't even claim that for the max under the curve gain. 15-30HP peak increase is what you'll see on the dyno numbers
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Since header, tune, and "better fuel" (E85) was mentioned, I believe @Blighty was referring to this link, which does advertise such gain. The link you provided is specific to headers and tune only.

https://www.delicioustuning.com/node/522
Yeah, sorry I should of provided the link so we were all on the same page.
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Old 03-23-2022, 12:28 PM   #17
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I will expect more gains with FI, but the limits will probably be the same to around 350whp. Maybe more like 375whp. Those of us that have blown engines around 350-400whp realize that going past 350whp was a hard no. Really, the FA20 probably shouldn’t go past 300-325whp and associated torque for longevity. Even if the displacement is more and the internals are slightly stronger, the transmission is only mildly stronger.

I think the advantage will be the obvious: higher NA power and higher FI hp on pump gas.

I would expect a smaller delta from headers because there is less of a torque dip.
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