GR86 and BRZ Probationary Eligibility

[traddos]

When the gr86 and new brz were announced, I checked the probationary vehicle database to see if they were eligible to drive as a P plater in Victoria. At the time, it said that both were approved to drive.

With this in mind, I went to a Subaru dealership only to later find out that the brz was now banned, and the gr86 didn't even exist in the database.

Now im just curious as to whether or not this is subject to change (as some cars are constantly being banned and then approved), or if I was just imagining things and they were always banned.

The only notable difference between previous models and the new ones are that older models have a 2.0L engine, and the new ones have a 2.4L which would obviously affect the power to weight ratio.

Thanks

[Midnightsky]

Learn how to drive before you get behind the wheel of a sports car. Grab up a cheap Honda Fit and run that until you get past the P Plate. Keep in mind that the 2nd Gen twins are only a hair slower than an STi now. That being said, new drivers should not be allowed to drive stuff that fast before getting some seat time in something a little more basic. So I agree with BC's decision to keep this vehicle off the P Plate program.

[traddos]

You didn't even attempt to answer my question. Whether or not you think i should buy the car is your opinion and has no impact on my life, i'm just just asking if anyone knows if they will eventually become p plate legal in Victoria like their predecessors. Thanks again.

[soundman98]

move to america, and you won't have that problem!

[timurrrr]

For people who never lived in Canada, don't know what "Probationary Eligibility" and even where Victoria is (Canada? Australia? Mars?), it would save a bit of time if this was briefly explained first.

[traddos]

basically it just means whether or not a car is eligible to be driven by a P plater based off certain criteria, such as but not limited to;
-engine size
-power to weight ratio

the maximum power to weight ratio for a P plater is 130kw/per tonne. with new generation brz and 86’s exceeding this limit at roughly 133-137kw/per tonne (from what ive researched), it barely exceeds the limit. in some cases such as these, it may be possible that it is reviewed and made legal (although it is uncommon)

(Australia, Victoria)

[Grif]

Assuming this is Victoria, Australia - I would recommend you contact VicRoads for confirmation.
A quick search on their website confirms it remains banned for P Platers.

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/lice...icles-database

[Midnightsky]

Originally Posted by traddos

basically it just means whether or not a car is eligible to be driven by a P plater based off certain criteria, such as but not limited to;
-engine size
-power to weight ratio

the maximum power to weight ratio for a P plater is 130kw/per tonne. with new generation brz and 86’s exceeding this limit at roughly 133-137kw/per tonne (from what ive researched), it barely exceeds the limit. in some cases such as these, it may be possible that it is reviewed and made legal (although it is uncommon)

(Australia, Victoria)

My Bad, thought you meant Victoria Canada. Completely different system lol. My apologies.

[traddos]

Yeah thats my bad, I should have specified Australia. My plan is to go to vicroads and test two options;

1. Add some weight to the car to make the power to weight ratio meet vicroads standards

2.Go to a tuner and see if they can take power out of the car to make it legal.

Both of these options seem futile, and i have to wait till they open on Monday. until then, prayers up

[Dirty Harry]

I don’t like your chances, I think the power to weight ratio is now over 130kw per tonne. Even if it was 131kw/tonne it would be banned, I guess they have to draw a line somewhere. Would you consider getting a first gen, then once you’re off your Ps trade up to a second gen? Probably a good car to learn in anyway and cheaper than a second gen.

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/lice...-vehicles-faqs