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Old 12-13-2021, 05:40 PM   #15
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Basically, it's like watching a young Jay Leno being absolutely serious (no jokes) at 1.6x speed.

He should seriously have bigger arms - all that flailing about should build muscle.

His scoring is interesting, but combining "Weekend" and "Weekday" driving scores into an overall score is basically a recipe for making any truly awesome car look mediocre. Oh, you built this to a purpose? Well it sucks at the stuff you didn't build it to do so now your score is ordinary.

If it scores better than the GR86 on "practicality" it's not a sports car. It's a hopped-up commuter. You can put a hot enough engine in a Honda Crossfit to make it really, really fast. But it's not ever going to be sexy.
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Old 12-13-2021, 05:47 PM   #16
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... combining "Weekend" and "Weekday" driving scores into an overall score is basically a recipe for making any truly awesome car look mediocre. Oh, you built this to a purpose? Well it sucks at the stuff you didn't build it to do so now your score is ordinary.
I somewhat disagree with you here.
For someone who needs one car that does it all, that's a viable way to score. You know, Golf GTI and WRX are popular for a reason.

What's good about his scoring system is that he still breaks down by sub-groups like "weekend" and "daily".
He makes those available front and center — if all you need is a car for the weekend, just look at the "weekend" score.

He also makes it clear that it's subjective, even calling it a DougScore.
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Old 12-13-2021, 05:58 PM   #17
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I stop watching his vid. A lot of info is incorrect and from the behind the scene, he's a rude person. I rather watch other small youtuber channels than give him my view.
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Old 12-13-2021, 07:05 PM   #18
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I somewhat disagree with you here.
For someone who needs one car that does it all, that's a viable way to score. You know, Golf GTI and WRX are popular for a reason.

What's good about his scoring system is that he still breaks down by sub-groups like "weekend" and "daily".
He makes those available front and center — if all you need is a car for the weekend, just look at the "weekend" score.

He also makes it clear that it's subjective, even calling it a DougScore.
That's just branding.
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Old 12-13-2021, 07:27 PM   #19
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Savage geese is pretty reliable. Honest about things.
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I watch Doug's videos for the quirks and features more than his actual opinions on how the cars drive.
Also this.
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That's just branding.
Where I grew up, there's a saying "The way you call a boat is the way it's going to sail".

When Doug first introduced the DougScore, he made it clear that it's his own subjective scoring system, and you take it the way you want. You can skip it altogether, use only parts of it, or start 10+ page holy wars on forums if you're into that kind of things.
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The latter of course. This is the internet after all.
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I can't watch him, I don't get the appeal.

Give me Topher, Throttle House and Savagegeese all day long over Doug.
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I can't watch him, I don't get the appeal.
I'm not a fan of his style, and I listen more than watch, but what I do like is he usually goes over the car in minute detail where others tend to want to go say "see how much I can drift it". Since any car I buy is going to be at least a semi-daily driver (sorry I don't buy cars for light duty) I want to know those things.

I do balance that out by watching all the ones you mention as well.
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I'm not a fan of his style, and I listen more than watch, but what I do like is he usually goes over the car in minute detail where others tend to want to go say "see how much I can drift it". Since any car I buy is going to be at least a semi-daily driver (sorry I don't buy cars for light duty) I want to know those things.

I do balance that out by watching all the ones you mention as well.
I can see that. We probably agree on his style/delivery...
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Savage geese is pretty reliable. Honest about things.
I like that those guys track and autocross cars, have a great sense of humor, and have great video production levels.
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I also more or less watch it for the quirks and features...but even then he misses some sometimes. (The 2022 IS500 for example, i dont think he likes the car...didnt seem to like the 2021 IS350, but he never mentions the touchscreen but always disses the trackpad. Which is weird because in the IS350 video he made it known that the touchscreen is available so you dont have to use the touchpad).
I also believe he is bias towards certain vehicles and brands, and is one of those "MOAR POWERRS" type of drivers.

His dougscore never makes any sense either...but i never really follow it. His two categories (weekend, daily) seem to have to "balance" each other out in some way so if one side score sucks the other has to make up the score somehow to make the overall score not seem super bias. (he can talk big about features but then give the car a 4/10 and another car like a 6/10 for less features)
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I think its a good scoring system for most cars people will buy.

Its not really a good scoring system for sports cars, and he is a bit inconsistent to his review which indicates potentially some massaging to get a final number. For example he talks about how much he thinks the looks is a big upgrade, yet his scores don't reflect that.
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