Any good reason to stick with 1st Gen?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by EAGLE5

So... like a pancreas?

Just like that... only less important

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by wbradley

You think?

Yeah

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Yeah

I dig the drum kit, looks like something I'd play. Ringo on 'roids.

I'll up the ante re: bass players:

Two comments; female AND Japanese!

[Lantanafrs2]

I'm going lexus or 22 86 with auto. I can't stand the manual anymore. Getting old and stiff

[CockpitCruiser]

Originally Posted by alone1i

If money is not an issue, what are good reasons to stick with 1st Gen over 2nd Gen. Curious to know from different angles.

Every adult, no matter how well off they are, all think of value vs price. Like other adults I've talked to, I purchased it over a Porsche or a Mercedes, because at 60k miles, a service on either of those costs far more than any repairs on this vehicle, for basically the same [adult] driving experience. Having a new one would mean I would need to deal with all the new things that come with all the new car versions. The surprises. After a few years, the surprises will be revised. Then, no matter what the car looks like, (another non-issue for adults,) I'll buy the new, all-wheel-drive version.

[CockpitCruiser]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I'm going lexus or 22 86 with auto. I can't stand the manual anymore. Getting old and stiff

I've used a MT as an excuse to save my brakes by down-shifting to slow down, and for coasting downhill to save gas. But I'm with you - I may be driving an AT some day too

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by CockpitCruiser

,,Then, no matter what the car looks like, (another non-issue for adults,)..

Well, you had me until this. How is the way a car looks (basically external design) not a part of an adult decision? Even if you are in a pure race environment where form follows function, typically a well performing car has some level of "eye pleasing" design built into it.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by CockpitCruiser

I've used a MT as an excuse to save my brakes by down-shifting to slow down, and for coasting downhill to save gas. But I'm with you - I may be driving an AT some day too

That's what the paddles are for....

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

That's what the paddles are for....

Unfortunately i don't find it particularly engaging to use.
I'd rather just let the car do the shifting for me.

MIGHT change my mind in a track situation but in everyday and spirited driving? using it feels pointless to me.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Unfortunately i don't find it particularly engaging to use.
I'd rather just let the car do the shifting for me.

MIGHT change my mind in a track situation but in everyday and spirited driving? using it feels pointless to me.

Interesting. I use mine all the time, even when in Auto mode. As far as whether it's engaging or not, I cannot say.

[Jegan_V]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Interesting. I use mine all the time, even when in Auto mode. As far as whether it's engaging or not, I cannot say.

These are very person to person things. I am also one who uses paddles very little in any automatic including dual clutch ones, instinctively if I want faster I go WOT. Paddles don't seem to come to mind for me.

Don't know if it's apathy when I drive an auto. Perhaps it's the manuals forcing engagement since otherwise they don't work.

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[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Jegan_V

These are very person to person things. I am also one who uses paddles very little in any automatic including dual clutch ones, instinctively if I want faster I go WOT. Paddles don't seem to come to mind for me.

In Auto, I downshift using the paddles primarily for passing on the highway (I double or triple tap it) because it's faster than letting the auto do it by itself.

On occasion I'll downshift to reduce speed in areas where the speed limit goes from say, 55 to 45 then to 35 just because I can.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I'm going lexus or 22 86 with auto. I can't stand the manual anymore. Getting old and stiff

Me too. I wouldn't imagine not driving an auto in traffic, but I still enjoy driving a manual in the mountains.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

In Auto, I downshift using the paddles primarily for passing on the highway (I double or triple tap it) because it's faster than letting the auto do it by itself.

On occasion I'll downshift to reduce speed in areas where the speed limit goes from say, 55 to 45 then to 35 just because I can.

I do this with the paddles in my wife's Outback all the time. It is the 2.5 engine so passing can be a bit interesting if waiting on the CVT to decide to "shift".