COVID Developments and News

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Several people are now retiring early.

It's my own prejudices and is flavored by my own life, but those are the ones I get the least.

They are in the highest group for negative effects from COVID. At this point, even if there are negative effects it's down the road a good ways, and likely past the end of their road.

As I've told folks, sure there could be long term effects, but if there are, I'll just be glad to still be alive to have them! Hopefully the first ones won't show up for 30 years.

But, at the end of the day, I'm pro-vax anti-mandate, so I can only say so much.

[dpfarr]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

Is murder a bad thing?

What about when other primates do it?

Should we look to primates for all of our morality?

You compared virtue signaling to murder. In case you needed some retro analysis.

[86TOYO2k17]

Originally Posted by dpfarr

You compared virtue signaling to murder. In case you needed some retro analysis.

You suggested we look to primates as our moral compass.
Retrograde that.

[Lantanafrs2]

I wonder if bondo apes do bodywork?

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by 86TOYO2k17

You suggested we look to primates as our moral compass.
Retrograde that.

Well, I do see a lot of primates making noise slinging shit around in here, so I guess it's just a fair observation...

[weederr33]

I guess we have it good compared to other countries like Austria

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...covid-cases-su

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I guess we have it good compared to other countries like Austria

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...covid-cases-su

At least they're recognizing natural immunity

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

At least they're recognizing natural immunity

It depends on their definition of "recovered recently" as to whether its a practical recognition doesn't it?

[Lantanafrs2]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tam...outputType=amp

[dpfarr]

Why the fuck do people create so much opposition to a PROVEN vaccine but some speculative unproven medicine?

[Atropine]

Originally Posted by dpfarr

Why the fuck do people create so much opposition to a PROVEN vaccine but some speculative unproven medicine?

The issue, is many people feel lied to.

Also its really been proven to work for about 6 months or so. A lot of people don't want to be signing up for shots every 6 months for a disease with a very low mortality rate.

Also a lot of medical people do not view it as a "Vaccine" but instead as prophylactic. It doen't act as a traditional "vaccine". But it does seem to do a good job acting as a prophylactic (reducing symptoms).

We are on now two admistrations that have handled this poorly.

The COVID reaction is a symptom of distrust sewn by clickbait echo chamber media.

Also there is a psychological phenomenon called "disaster fatigue" or "compassion fatigue". In this setting it would actually be the people closest to the danger/disaster who just hit that "fuck it...I don't care anymore" stage.

For me, it was hard getting exposed to this everyday at my job when there was not a treatment available...and now people who have had the luxury to quarantining and collecting checks are telling me I need to take a vaccine so they feel safer. Many of healthcare workers have hit that point. There is no way to reduce your danger to zero for this. Just do the best you can. The big issue is where my rights and your rights collide.

Anyway, stay safe friends.

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Atropine

The issue, is many people feel lied to.

Also a lot of medical people do not view it as a "Vaccine" but instead as prophylactic. It doen't act as a traditional "vaccine". But it does seem to do a good job acting as a prophylactic (reducing symptoms).

We are on now two admistrations that have handled this poorly.

The COVID reaction is a symptom of distrust sewn by clickbait echo chamber media.

Anyway, stay safe friends.

You are back to doing this again. What exactly IS a prophylactic? You say they are intended to moderate symptoms. So the prophylactics I used to pick up before dates were only make the STD I caught less severe, or the girl slightly less pregnant? That is silly. Prophylactics have and have always had one purpose - PREVENT Disease. The definition hasn't changed - ever. I am encouraged to see you imploring people to stay safe. However, it is very discouraging to see you repetitively recycling the same fundamentally false disinformation. Please, please stop. There is an off chance that someone will listen to you and end up in very serious difficulty.

The lack of trust in government has been building for decades and has far less to to with the media than with having its seeds sown and cultivated by a certain group of unscrupulous politicians.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Atropine

The issue, is many people feel lied to.

Also its really been proven to work for about 6 months or so. A lot of people don't want to be signing up for shots every 6 months for a disease with a very low mortality rate.

Also a lot of medical people do not view it as a "Vaccine" but instead as prophylactic. It doen't act as a traditional "vaccine". But it does seem to do a good job acting as a prophylactic (reducing symptoms).

We are on now two admistrations that have handled this poorly.

The COVID reaction is a symptom of distrust sewn by clickbait echo chamber media.

Also there is a psychological phenomenon called "disaster fatigue" or "compassion fatigue". In this setting it would actually be the people closest to the danger/disaster who just hit that "fuck it...I don't care anymore" stage.

For me, it was hard getting exposed to this everyday at my job when there was not a treatment available...and now people who have had the luxury to quarantining and collecting checks are telling me I need to take a vaccine so they feel safer. Many of healthcare workers have hit that point. There is no way to reduce your danger to zero for this. Just do the best you can. The big issue is where my rights and your rights collide.

Anyway, stay safe friends.

Well, if everyone got the damn thing it would be a lot more effective and we wouldn't have to get it every year like the flu vaccine.

Also you might want to reconsider the words you use.
Prophylactic: guarding from or preventing the spread or occurrence of disease or infection
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prophylactic

Edit: Captain beat me to it

[Atropine]

Right, but vaccines typically last a very long time (forever or years).

I am NOT saying the "vaccine" is bad. I am saying it is mislabled and the definition of "vaccine" was changed in the last 18 months.

That is why a lot of people don't trust it.

I am just filling you in on what some people think...or why they are skeptical.

I agree that the government has been doing us dirty a long time in the US and I think with more news sources, people are awakening to it.

BTW the current vaccines don't really prevent the disease. Many prophylactics do prevent, but some just reduce symptoms. The Peanut Butter shot for the military was mentioned earlier. That is a good example.

I am not trying to be confrontational fellas.