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[Frost]

Folks, calm down. Your cars are coming. Yeesh.

[nikitopo]

It is not an issue of Toyota US. It is the same for Toyota Japan. Their page says "GR86 is coming" ...

[Clide]

Just got an email from my dealer, looks like I got the premium MT gr86 trim with model #6255!

[McMCOO]

Originally Posted by Clide

Just got an email from my dealer, looks like I got the premium gr86 trim with model #6255!

Who is your dealer???

[Clide]

Originally Posted by McMCOO

Who is your dealer???

Marysville Toyota, but they don't have any info on color/delivery.

[McMCOO]

Welp, just sold my 86 for 30k. 4.3k more than I paid new. Now I'm all in. The struggle is real!

[PrayForRain]

Can someone tell me how people are getting the new ones for msrp or less when they are also buying old cars for over msrp? Are there really going to be both 1st and second gen on a lot for sale with a used first gen being on sale for more than the newer one?

[Pat]

Originally Posted by PrayForRain

Can someone tell me how people are getting the new ones for msrp or less when they are also buying old cars for over msrp? Are there really going to be both 1st and second gen on a lot for sale with a used first gen being on sale for more than the newer one?

You are only getting partial stories I bet.

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[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by PrayForRain

Can someone tell me how people are getting the new ones for msrp or less when they are also buying old cars for over msrp? Are there really going to be both 1st and second gen on a lot for sale with a used first gen being on sale for more than the newer one?

They stopped production like a year ago so there is demand. Many shoppers are uninformed and don't know a new one is out and they will pay what CarMax says. Once new models hit dealer lots, I would expect used prices to drop quickly, assuming they make enough to fill demand. CarMax will either end up losing money or they will flip them fast enough that it doesn't hurt at all. What sucks is the person who ends up paying 35k for that 86 only to have it drop in value to 20k in a year. They will be so underwater on it I hope they plan on keeping it for 10 years at least.

[McMCOO]

I figured I had a prime window likely to start to close after production/delivery gets rolling. In February or March, maybe used FT86 values could be less. Hard to say, but I didn't want to take the risk.

[Vides990]

Originally Posted by McMCOO

I figured I had a prime window likely to start to close after production/delivery gets rolling. In February or March, maybe used FT86 values could be less. Hard to say, but I didn't want to take the risk.

I'm going to do the same thing, Carmax has offered me 34k for my TS and I don't think I can pass that up lol paid just over 29 for it.

[LanceLane174]

Originally Posted by PrayForRain

Can someone tell me how people are getting the new ones for msrp or less when they are also buying old cars for over msrp? Are there really going to be both 1st and second gen on a lot for sale with a used first gen being on sale for more than the newer one?

My guess is that if you see a BRZ (unicorn) on a car lot before June then you will also see a huge markup. I am hearing the Toyota markup is going to be 1500 to 4000 in small markets. LA and Chicago could be like 10 to 15,000.

[McMCOO]

Marysville Toyota in Washington State is accepting deposits. $500, fully refundable. No markup from MSRP. I just paid mine.

[rowen0fpts]

Originally Posted by Spektyr

This is what has me the most pissed-off.

Toyota has all the options nailed down - they know what they're going to offer in terms of color options, wheels, etc. But they haven't updated their website to give any impression that they intend to actually release the 2022 GR86 any time soon. It's still under "Upcoming Vehicles", and it takes you to a page full of promise and very little information.

Oh, but if you'd like to have Toyota send you updates, you can sign up for their mailing list...

... which will do absolutely nothing because Toyota doesn't actually send you any email about the car, ever.

They don't talk to their dealers. They don't talk to their customers.

Most of the US is putting away their sports cars for the winter months and Toyota can't even venture a guess (or, more likely, hasn't even considered that anyone but their corporate staff cares to know the answer) as to when they might actually start sending cars to dealerships.

My local Subaru dealership has said that I can't test drive the BRZ - they simply will not have anything to test drive for many, many months. Every single car they might get is pre-sold for the foreseeable future. Toyota dealerships within 1000 miles of me either have no information or just lie to me outright. They frequently offer to let me put down a deposit on the "next GR86 they get" which to me just seems monumentally stupid. It's not a vending machine. I'm not going to stick $30k+ in, turn the knob, and see what I end up with.

Buying a car I can't even test drive? That's some crazy shit.

But Toyota not even making an effort to make customers feel like they care at all about keeping us informed? That's infuriating.

They'll practically send Dog the Bounty Hunter to your door if you don't get airbag recall work done within a month of being notified about it, but this is just deafening silence.

I've never seen so much incessant complaining in one post.

You know you're going to like the car enough to buy it kid. Stop making a fuss just because you can.