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weederr33 · 09-11-2021, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires

ummm sorry have you considered the TRUTH that this virus was made to sell vaccines?

(ignore the part where they're paid for by the government)

Oh FFS. Here we go with this shit.

cjd · 09-11-2021, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires

ummm sorry have you considered the TRUTH that this virus was made to sell vaccines?

(ignore the part where they're paid for by the government)

Please cite your sources. Have you considered the TRUTH that you hang out with liars intent on brainwashing you to their cause?

That aside, it is entirely irrelevant at this point. We are where we are.

more money went to Bezos as a result than anyone else. Average citizens lost, he won (along with a couple others, none of which are pharmaceutical companies). Wealth transfer in the trillions. Yay "capitalism"?

Irace86.2.0 · 09-11-2021, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

My wife asked me about ECMO today. I found out a friend of my wife's coworker/boss/friend is intubated in the ICU with COVID. She is 38 and has a husband and seven children. Apparently she was bad enough that they told her husband last week to come say goodbye, but she is still here. They are putting her on ECMO. For those that don't know, it is basically heart/lung bypass like what is used during open heart surgery. It is like a dialysis machine, except it is for the heart and lungs instead of the kidneys. Looks like the rate of mortality for ECMO for the use of ARDS/COVID for her age is around 42%, which isn't great.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/756993

She sadly died today. Survived by her husband and seven kids. Apparently one of them is 2-3 weeks old, so that sucks too.

Capt Spaulding · 09-11-2021, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

She sadly died today. Survived by her husband and seven kids. Apparently one of them is 2-3 weeks old, so that sucks too.

Shit. There's not much else to say - this is just shit.

soundman98 · 09-12-2021, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires

ummm sorry have you considered the TRUTH that this virus was made to sell vaccines?

(ignore the part where they're paid for by the government)

at first, i was a little angry. but you know what? you're exactly right. the vaccine is selling so well because of the virus.

just like the great hoodwinking of the polio 'vaccine'. the same one that every single newborn gets now...

the internet is it's own worst enemy.

Spuds · 09-12-2021, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MyHybridBurnsGasAndTires

ummm sorry have you considered the TRUTH that this virus was made to sell vaccines?

(ignore the part where they're paid for by the government)

This is sarcasm right? You need a

or people will think you are serious.

cjd · 09-12-2021, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

This is sarcasm right? You need a

or people will think you are serious.

Sarcasm or satire, but it needs to have just enough of a hint to tip people off. So maybe that winky face...
I never knew "truth" in all caps meant it was for sure 100% guaranteed legit till now, so at least I learned something?
I mean, no one notices the TRUTH that there is no torque dip...

MuseChaser · 09-12-2021, 01:38 PM

https://www.foxnews.com/health/ny-ho...accine-mandate

Lantanafrs2 · 09-12-2021, 01:53 PM

I guess they dont visit this forum.

Spuds · 09-12-2021, 02:10 PM

I wonder if people would be so opposed to getting the vaccine if it wasn't free to them. People are inherently untrusting of too good to be true. If it cost something to the individual I would think it would be seen as more valuable.

MuseChaser · 09-12-2021, 02:17 PM

An article about recent stats in our county...

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus...-february.html

The last line of the article states that, "All told, 734 people have died of the coronavirus in the county during the pandemic."

Our county has a population of approximately 460,000 as of 2019 (most current data I could find quickly).

In 2018, in our county, 899 died of cancer, 895 died of heart disease, and "unintentional injury" was a distant third with 241, followed by chronic lower respiratory disease at 216, and cerebrovascular disease at 200.

https://apps.health.ny.gov/public/ta...eports/#county

Those figures are per year, and the 734 covid deaths cited earlier are since the pandemic began (longer than a year). Additionally, a significant portion of those covid deaths would seem to overlap the other categories (other than "unintentional injuries") as comorbidities. I wish I could find more current data online, but I couldn't... nothing that lists Covid deaths alongside those other causes in a similar chart. Even if every Covid death was 100% due to covid, i.e., an additional death on top of the ones accounted for by the other causes, it would still come in third place by a pretty good margin to cancer and heart disease. That, undoubtedly, is not the case anyway; it seems to be a recognized fact that most covid deaths occur when significant comorbidities are present.

Soo.. take heart. Covid is almost never a death sentence. Someone walking by you, even if they carry the virus, will almost never cause you any harm. That does not mean that there is NO chance of severe harm coming to you from Covid... there is always a chance of something terrible happening. We can't reduce that to zero. People who eat healthy their whole lives, exercise regularly, and do "all the right things" still die of heart disease and cancer. More people who do NOT take care of themselves suffer that unfortunate fate, of course.

Covid is the same. We need to take care of ourselves and each other.. take precautions, of course. Remembering that heart disease and cancer are far more common causes of death (and perhaps unintentional injury, CLRD, and cerebrovascular disease, depending upon how the Covid/comorbidity causes are recorded) than Covid, mandates that encourage even a small percentage of badly needed health care personnel to retire or resign don't seem logical, much less constitutional (but that last part is another argument... I'll stick with logical).

MuseChaser · 09-12-2021, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

I wonder if people would be so opposed to getting the vaccine if it wasn't free to them. People are inherently untrusting of too good to be true. If it cost something to the individual I would think it would be seen as more valuable.

Human nature is pretty strange, granted, but I hope that isn't true. There doesn't currently seem to be a shortage of people willing to accept a lot of other free stuff....

Spuds · 09-12-2021, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Human nature is pretty strange, granted, but I hope that isn't true. There doesn't currently seem to be a shortage of people willing to accept a lot of other free stuff....

Maybe that's something we can use. Make it cost something, but make a nominally more tedious way to get it for free! Best of both worlds!

Ultramaroon · 09-12-2021, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

Maybe that's something we can use. Make it cost something, but make a nominally more tedious way to get it for free! Best of both worlds!

Charge the unvaccinated full price for all covid medical care.

09-12-2021, 01:38 PM	#806
MuseChaser Feeling like thinking.... Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: CNY Posts: 1,664 Thanks: 1,664 Thanked 2,433 Times in 1,064 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	https://www.foxnews.com/health/ny-ho...accine-mandate __________________ Drive like everyone's life around you depends on it...

09-12-2021, 02:17 PM	#809
MuseChaser Feeling like thinking.... Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: CNY Posts: 1,664 Thanks: 1,664 Thanked 2,433 Times in 1,064 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	An article about recent stats in our county... https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus...-february.html The last line of the article states that, "All told, 734 people have died of the coronavirus in the county during the pandemic." Our county has a population of approximately 460,000 as of 2019 (most current data I could find quickly). In 2018, in our county, 899 died of cancer, 895 died of heart disease, and "unintentional injury" was a distant third with 241, followed by chronic lower respiratory disease at 216, and cerebrovascular disease at 200. https://apps.health.ny.gov/public/ta...eports/#county Those figures are per year, and the 734 covid deaths cited earlier are since the pandemic began (longer than a year). Additionally, a significant portion of those covid deaths would seem to overlap the other categories (other than "unintentional injuries") as comorbidities. I wish I could find more current data online, but I couldn't... nothing that lists Covid deaths alongside those other causes in a similar chart. Even if every Covid death was 100% due to covid, i.e., an additional death on top of the ones accounted for by the other causes, it would still come in third place by a pretty good margin to cancer and heart disease. That, undoubtedly, is not the case anyway; it seems to be a recognized fact that most covid deaths occur when significant comorbidities are present. Soo.. take heart. Covid is almost never a death sentence. Someone walking by you, even if they carry the virus, will almost never cause you any harm. That does not mean that there is NO chance of severe harm coming to you from Covid... there is always a chance of something terrible happening. We can't reduce that to zero. People who eat healthy their whole lives, exercise regularly, and do "all the right things" still die of heart disease and cancer. More people who do NOT take care of themselves suffer that unfortunate fate, of course. Covid is the same. We need to take care of ourselves and each other.. take precautions, of course. Remembering that heart disease and cancer are far more common causes of death (and perhaps unintentional injury, CLRD, and cerebrovascular disease, depending upon how the Covid/comorbidity causes are recorded) than Covid, mandates that encourage even a small percentage of badly needed health care personnel to retire or resign don't seem logical, much less constitutional (but that last part is another argument... I'll stick with logical). __________________ Drive like everyone's life around you depends on it...

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