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08-12-2021, 09:53 AM | #1 |
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Staged short block or upgrading current block internals? (Old tale)
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Trust me, I have spent months researching this and searched here, Reddit, FB, NAOISC (sp?). The information is either old or lacks any sort of consensus. Goal: To reach 80,000ish miles with sub 300whp with a touch more reliability. I am running an Edelbrock SC with the stock pulley and currently at 246whp with 220 ft/tq. This feels great, somewhat conservative for FI, and all the power I really need.. We all know the failure points of the FA20; rods, bearings, pistons (somewhat), oil starvation, etc.. In anticipation of stressing my engine much more than the OEM intended, I am thinking of building my engine in the next 6 months. My problem is, do I go with an IAG short block, or use the reputable performance shop in the area that knows Subaru and builds engines regularly to just upgrade my current motor with pistons, rods, bearings, ARP head studs, etc? Is it cheaper to upgrade a current block or to just slap in an IAG? IAG offers "improved oiling" so this is why I think they are good...but my 2020 BRZ only has 8.7k miles, so the block is fresh; this leads me to want to save money and upgrade it before anything happens, proactively. Thoughts? Maybe a stock block is fine with my current power numbers?
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I think you are over thinking it. Run good quality oil, get periodic UOA's to monitor engine health.
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I think I am in an echo-chamber and just reading too many horror stories of people blowing engines I've convinced myself I have a Top Fuel car or something and need to rebuilt in 10k If anything, the clutch might need to be replaced early...hopefully that's it. Thanks, again!
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You have a V8?!?! Thank you for the voice of reason. I just dropped $10k on the SC, supporting mods, and labor 2k miles ago haha But hey..single and no kids; what are you gonna do!
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Hey Buddy! Thank you and I appreciate what you're saying. What is a UOA?
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I went with the IAG Stage 1 after the recall destroyed my motor. I’m NA however I felt the extra money was worth it to have something bulletproof. Breaking down at a track 8 hours from home is no fun and something I never want to do again. If your motor still seems fine then I’d just service it properly and then if it ever goes then do something about it.
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$30 isn't bad at all, for what it is. Thanks! Quote:
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Can I ask what it cost? We talking $3k in labor or $5k+?
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