No Brembos = suck

[~el~jefe~]

Originally Posted by zc06_kisstherain

lol 200hp with Brembo unnecessary

weight of car = brakes needed. And their relationship to amount of tire patch.



10000 hp car that is 300 lbs needs go-kart drum brakes.

[Jordanwolf]

Originally Posted by ZDan

At the track, a lot... How much energy you have to dissipate in the braking zone is directly related to how fast you're going, which is directly related to how much power you have. More power = faster = more energy for the brakes to take and reject as heat.

I got a chuckle out of it when they added the big Brembos as an option. After years and years of "could use more power", they give it massive brakes sized for 300+ hp, and +5hp...

In many racing/track applications would it still not be better to have the Brembos alongside better pads, tires, and fluid regardless of power??

[~el~jefe~]

I do not think people actually drive their car on mountains fast. I do not think people drive cars fast on forums. I have come to this conclusion long ago. Hard braking many times in a row with performance brakes gives consistency. Brakes all stop the car the same manner if not overheated. Tires and suspension and weight are the factors for stopping

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Jordanwolf

In many racing/track applications would it still not be better to have the Brembos alongside better pads, tires, and fluid regardless of power??

For sure. They'll allow a wider range of pad compounds and brake fluid, and you'll get more life out of pads and rotors. The big Brembos also have better (for me) feel. I'm glad I got them, although I'm sure I could make the standard setup work fine for me at the track and run similar lap times.

[Ernest72]

Don’t forget the 4pot 2pot look nice and work well for cheaper.

[JRitt]

We're already working on some AP Racing brake solutions for the new chassis. Remember that our AP Racing by Essex Sprint Kit shaved 20 unsprung lbs. off the nose and allowed one to pretty much thrash on them all day, every day, without any fade or issues. Toyota engineers won an endurance racing championship with our 'out-of-the-box' kit: https://www.essexparts.com/news-blog...-win-at-a-time


If that's not enough for you, we have some other things in the works as well.


Our systems don't cost $1500, but they also offer far more than systems that do cost that much.

[Stonehorsw]

Originally Posted by JRitt

We're already working on some AP Racing brake solutions for the new chassis. Remember that our AP Racing by Essex Sprint Kit shaved 20 unsprung lbs. off the nose and allowed one to pretty much thrash on them all day, every day, without any fade or issues. Toyota engineers won an endurance racing championship with our 'out-of-the-box' kit: https://www.essexparts.com/news-blog...-win-at-a-time


If that's not enough for you, we have some other things in the works as well.


Our systems don't cost $1500, but they also offer far more than systems that do cost that much.

Will have option with tucked piston boot?

[RToyo86]

Originally Posted by ~el~jefe~

I do not think people actually drive their car on mountains fast. I do not think people drive cars fast on forums. I have come to this conclusion long ago. Hard braking many times in a row with performance brakes gives consistency. Brakes all stop the car the same manner if not overheated. Tires and suspension and weight are the factors for stopping

Many people on the forums do indeed track their cars.
For those that do brembos make sense for the added thermal capacity when you spend a full day doing sessions.
You can certainly get away with standard brakes, good pads and high temp fluid for the majority of driving conditions at bolt on power levels.

My pedal feel actually gets better on a mountain road as good pads tend to need constant rebedding on the street if they're not run hard..

I've done two 30 minute track sessions an hour apart and had zero issues with the brakes. I was more concerned with oil cooling as temps were getting above 260f quite easily.

[s30series]

Sold my 2015 Series.Blue the other day with a Wildwood kit. I'm holding out for the 2023..... hopefully there will be an STi version BRZ with the STi brakes that are on the WRX line? The current brakes look awful on the 2022.....and it sounds petty but brake caliper looks are a thing for even those of us who track multiple times a year

[trippinbillies40]

Originally Posted by JRitt

We're already working on some AP Racing brake solutions for the new chassis. Remember that our AP Racing by Essex Sprint Kit shaved 20 unsprung lbs. off the nose and allowed one to pretty much thrash on them all day, every day, without any fade or issues. Toyota engineers won an endurance racing championship with our 'out-of-the-box' kit: https://www.essexparts.com/news-blog...-win-at-a-time


If that's not enough for you, we have some other things in the works as well.


Our systems don't cost $1500, but they also offer far more than systems that do cost that much.

I'll order a Sprint set the day they're ready. Even if it's before my car arrives, so make a note to send me a PM and I'll be your first customer!

[Jianlun]

Originally Posted by JRitt

We're already working on some AP Racing brake solutions for the new chassis. Remember that our AP Racing by Essex Sprint Kit shaved 20 unsprung lbs. off the nose and allowed one to pretty much thrash on them all day, every day, without any fade or issues. Toyota engineers won an endurance racing championship with our 'out-of-the-box' kit: https://www.essexparts.com/news-blog...-win-at-a-time


If that's not enough for you, we have some other things in the works as well.


Our systems don't cost $1500, but they also offer far more than systems that do cost that much.

And some super lightweight 2pc rear rotors too pretty please. With a thin steel insert for the handbrake liner...

[ichitaka05]

Also got lil info that PP might be coming sooner than later. So maybe you guys don't need to buy BBK.

But w any rumor, take it as a grain of salt.

[Stonehorsw]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Also got lil info that PP might be coming sooner than later. So maybe you guys don't need to buy BBK.

But w any rumor, take it as a grain of salt.

They should do as dealer installed accessories also, for people that gets the car before they release this option

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Stonehorsw

They should do as dealer installed accessories also, for people that gets the car before they release this option

Technically, if you want, you can install current PP Brembos in next gen. It'll fit. Suspension in the other hand, it does need different spring (softer rate), but it's almost bolt on.