Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[MuseChaser]

I'm equally intrigued with what human beings can do based solely upon skill, dedication, and ingenuity, and also what the uber successful/rich can do with their almost unlimited resources. Remarkable achievement is remarkable achievement, regardless. I abhor cheating; if a competition has rules, they need to be followed. The Branson and Bezos launches and successful returns were truly inspiring to me, but equally or possibly more inspiring is seeing everyday people do extraordinarily kind or selfless things... For instance, the elderly Russian woman who caught a toddler falling from a second story window today and did not wish to accept thanks or a reward from the family.

What were we talking about? Lost my choo-choo...

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

but stock car racing is fun too because it's [more] about the driver and less about how much money they have.


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I enjoy it because of the tight field it creates. Sometimes you see 10 passes a lap. F1, you are lucky to see 10 on track passes a race.

[Kiske]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

I enjoy it because of the tight field it creates. Sometimes you see 10 passes a lap. F1, you are lucky to see 10 on track passes a race.

Time to watch Super GT!

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

It would be fun to do lemon race... but with recent used car price, finding and prepping a car that's $500 or under gonna be hard.

I believe it's $500 net price, not including safety equipment like a cage and fire extinguisher. That means you can dismantle and sell parts you don't need like the entire interior.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Spuds

I believe it's $500 net price, not including safety equipment like a cage and fire extinguisher. That means you can dismantle and sell parts you don't need like the entire interior.

I checked on that part of the rule, sadly you cannot sell parts to get more money.

But of course there are different endurance lemon races, so it may vary w different races

[Captain Snooze]

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[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

Depends, I mean I love watching unlimited drag racing, but stock car racing is fun too because it's [more] about the driver and less about how much money they have.

It would be more interesting if they still drove stock cars and not a "platform" with a shell on top of it.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

Eh, not really. Especially considering you are allowed, and encouraged, to bribe the judges.

Well, I didn't mean exactly like Lemons, just that as an example. I know you can also manipulate the cost of the car by selling off parts as well, turning a $1500 car or more into a $500 car.

[x808drifter]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I checked on that part of the rule, sadly you cannot sell parts to get more money.

But of course there are different endurance lemon races, so it may vary w different races

Yes you can sell parts off a car to bring your purchase price down.
There are no different rules for different races.

4.7: Scavenger Sales: If you sell pieces off of your car, the money that comes back in can be used to offset the initial purchase price. (This only applies to stuff that counts toward the $500 total; the sale of exempt items–like wheels, glass, etc.–can NOT be used to offset the initial purchase price.) Just be prepared to convince some exceedingly skeptical judges of the validity of all those transactions.

Interior trim/carpet, door cards, ect can be used to bring the price of the car down closer to the $500 mark.

Don't forget
1.4: Claiming Race: At the end of the competition, the Organizers–and nobody else, you lazy, better-car-wantin’ bastids–may elect to purchase any vehicle from its owner(s) for $500. In 80 races and counting, we’ve claimed cars precisely twice. Don’t piss us off so much that we raise that to three.

As for bribes?
Those are more to just take off a few BSF laps.
If the panel believes the limit set out in Rule 4.1 has been exceeded, it will assign a Bullshit Factor (BSF) equal to one BSF per $10 above the limit. The entry will be docked one lap for each BSF assigned. (Ten dollars = one BSF = one lap.) Entrants are very, very, exceedingly strongly encouraged to bring pre-race-prep photographs, verifiable receipts, notarized testimonials, plus any and all other supporting evidence to Tech/BS Inspection. Or at least make up plausible-sounding stories in advance.

Some of my friends in MI and I were supposed to do the Gingerman race last year but then Covid. Same for this year.
:soon

[cjd]

I race with a lemons team. I'm not on the team, mind... It's interesting. It's still not cheap. Maintenance, consumables, etc. Also sounds like they have a blast.

[x808drifter]

Definitely not a race to win event.
Get a used mini van and race that!

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

Some of my friends in MI and I were supposed to do the Gingerman race last year but then Covid. Same for this year.
:soon

Originally Posted by cjd

I race with a lemons team. I'm not on the team, mind... It's interesting. It's still not cheap. Maintenance, consumables, etc. Also sounds like they have a blast.

Haha def not to win. Just more of for experiences. We all should make a FT86 team and run Civic

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Haha def not to win. Just more of for experiences. We all should make a FT86 team and run Civic

Lol a civic of any vintage might be too expensive for lemons

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Lol a civic of any vintage might be too expensive for lemons

Ten + year old base 4 doors are dirt cheap here.