2022 Lotus Emira, the last ICE for the brand.

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by gymratter

And that is 'just' the tuned Toyota based 3.5L V6 ('from a Camry') with a supercharger. It still sounds glorious. People (including me) go nuts over the sound of a Porsche flat 6, but this just goes to show that even a humble V6 (even one from more mundane vehicles) can still dish the goods if it is tuned properly and has a decent exhaust. The AMG 2.0 might even be a better performer with the boost turned all the way up, but I think I'd be picking the V6 every time.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Red-86

Well, given they just discontinued a featherweight sub-1000kg car (Elise) and 'replaced' it and its lightweight sibling (Exige) with a 1400kg GT car, I'd have to agree, they seem to have updated the motto to "complicate and add weight."

I think it's a real shame there is no true successor to the Elise or Exige. The Emira is pretty obviously only a replacement for the Evora. But if it keeps Lotus afloat as a company, and they are still building sportscars, I guess it is worth it.

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The Evora was just boring looking for a Lotus. This looks better than the Evora, but what I would have loved to see is an exotic looking Exige--a Miata on steroids. I think the styling is there, and I am glad they ditched the useless back seats, but the dimensions and weight leave me scratching my head.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Red-86

And that is 'just' the tuned Toyota based 3.5L V6 ('from a Camry') with a supercharger. It still sounds glorious. People (including me) go nuts over the sound of a Porsche flat 6, but this just goes to show that even a humble V6 (even one from more mundane vehicles) can still dish the goods if it is tuned properly and has a decent exhaust. The AMG 2.0 might even be a better performer with the boost turned all the way up, but I think I'd be picking the V6 every time.

The Toyota 2GR 3.5 always sounded glorious in Evora S form. (I think the non-S sounded a bit more "normal 2GR 3.5")
I dont know what they did to get that sound but adding an exhaust to say a Camry or an IS with that same motor (abeit N/A) could not reproduce it.

[WolfpackS2k]

V6 all the way. That its a Toyota piece is even better. To hell with a crude tiny 4 banger.

[Kiske]

85k for the S/C V6
https://www.lotuspalmbeach.com/emira.html

[jflogerzi]

to rich for my blood, but I will love to see this and C8 go head to head as lets face it no one is getting close to MSRP on the C8s

[ACT86]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

The Toyota 2GR 3.5 always sounded glorious in Evora S form. (I think the non-S sounded a bit more "normal 2GR 3.5")
I dont know what they did to get that sound but adding an exhaust to say a Camry or an IS with that same motor (abeit N/A) could not reproduce it.

The 400 models on came with a better exhaust. Heaps of aftermarket options, but they all sound amazing (the same) with a good setup. Amazing from such a common run of the mill engine.

[LancePower]

Originally Posted by Kiske

85k for the S/C V6
https://www.lotuspalmbeach.com/emira.html



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My color combo. Excellent taste, sir.

Although, I went with the Alcantara seats and wheel.

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

The Toyota 2GR 3.5 always sounded glorious in Evora S form. (I think the non-S sounded a bit more "normal 2GR 3.5")
I dont know what they did to get that sound but adding an exhaust to say a Camry or an IS with that same motor (abeit N/A) could not reproduce it.

A supercharger creates resonance in the manifold and changes the turbulence of the air. Like how a turbocharger can muddle the exhaust note, a supercharger can liven it, and adding more power helps.

[serialk11r]

A supercharger just makes the exhaust sound louder, the harmonics are still basically identical (backpressure increase is negligible). It adds a bit of noise to the intake though. I haven't actually driven an Evora S before but my friend said you can definitely hear the supercharger.

An NA 2GR sounds great with a louder muffler than what comes on a Sienna. The 2GR swapped MR2s sound glorious.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

An NA 2GR sounds great with a louder muffler than what comes on a Sienna. The 2GR swapped MR2s sound glorious.

Fuck yeah they do. I have seen this car in person. Sounds amazing.

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[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by serialk11r

A supercharger just makes the exhaust sound louder, the harmonics are still basically identical (backpressure increase is negligible). It adds a bit of noise to the intake though. I haven't actually driven an Evora S before but my friend said you can definitely hear the supercharger.

An NA 2GR sounds great with a louder muffler than what comes on a Sienna. The 2GR swapped MR2s sound glorious.

I wasn’t just talking about exhaust note. I really don’t have an equally powerful (impossible anyways) version of the same engine (one NA and one SC) to tell if there is a resonance change to induction or if the only difference is more power. The way to compare might be to compare a centrifugal SC to a positive displacement SC of the same power. I believe the noises are different, but in general, I’m fine conceding the point and just chalking it up to more power flowing through a similar exhaust.

[Capt Spaulding]

I quite like the Toyota 3.5 V6. My wife has a '12 V6 Camry SE. I know the car doesn't get a lot of love, but that engine is, I think. worth the price of admission. Even in the Camry I love passing 18 wheelers on two lanes just to listen to it. I just wish you could get some decent aftermarket suspension pieces for it.

Sadly, the Lotus is a non-starter for me, as is the Miata, the C8, and the Cayman. Of all the sports/sporty cars on the market the BRZ is the only one I've found that comes close to fitting me. The others are designed around micro-drivers. I realize how normal distributions work and I can tell you that height is one of the attributes where being over two standard deviations from the mean has its drawbacks when it comes to cars.

[ACT86]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

I quite like the Toyota 3.5 V6. My wife has a '12 V6 Camry SE. I know the car doesn't get a lot of love, but that engine is, I think. worth the price of admission. Even in the Camry I love passing 18 wheelers on two lanes just to listen to it. I just wish you could get some decent aftermarket suspension pieces for it.

Sadly, the Lotus is a non-starter for me, as is the Miata, the C8, and the Cayman. Of all the sports/sporty cars on the market the BRZ is the only one I've found that comes close to fitting me. The others are designed around micro-drivers. I realize how normal distributions work and I can tell you that height is one of the attributes where being over two standard deviations from the mean has its drawbacks when it comes to cars.

I think you’d be surprised mate. There is WAAAY more room for me inside the Evora cabin than there is in the 86. Tonnes more headroom and the seat offers even more leg room. Assuming the Emira is similar (on basically the same chassis), I’d imagine there would be enough space, at least as much or more than a BRZ.

The Toyota V6 was a huge surprise for me too. It really screams to redline, yet has a lovely warble down low. It’s a good unit