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Old 07-28-2012, 06:06 PM   #71
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Did I miss the videos or a link to them? All I can find is the teaser
Cole has Video. He said he would get that done on Monday.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:33 PM   #72
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Why would I state that ONLY FRS/BRZ componets are the being made in the U.S.A. Do you know any different? AP was behind in making the 1st run because the AP guys were working on finishing up some 997TT and BMW parts. In House!



http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/...ID=24&CDpath=0

Where are you getting your facts on this is Chinese knock off stuff? I do not see it posted in link. I mean if we are going to get technical right? "overseas" Doesn't say China. Next, you also claim you knew they were made in China in the 1st thread., but now state you were not aware things have changed. So you really do not know what you are talking about then right. So it would be safe to say maybe you should slow it down. I mean you just made a mistake right? So should I now try and hang you for it? I will point it out but not charge after you over it.

Next you do not listen. The Header is made in house. People that have stopped by have also told you its being made in house. They have seen how its made. And no I am not going to post how we do it. Its been said over and over again.

Now I might check back in here between now and Monday. But since I have weekends off. I missed a Subaru Event invite to Pismo and have a family life. I'm going to go enjoy my day.

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Well I'm not too concerned about this mistake (where exactly 'overseas' are they made then?). Partly because the link was not available and I even stated at the time that I was unsure anticipating that there would be a correction rather than vague innuendo and a customer or two that saw a jig. You need jigs to make prototypes. You also cut up and tacked together that STI/Legacy GT header as a prototype. So I'm putting two and two together. The flange to primary sections and collectors are identical as is the secondary collector.

And as to relying on your statements, well your track record on this site isn't that great. We get the website saying 'overseas' and you saying 'in house'. So in between would be a reworked overseas part.

I think I'm doing a pretty good job listening, how about you? How did you miss the flywheel checking suggestion I made early on?
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:45 PM   #73
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Is the delta the same regardless of which gear is used? In other words, does a gain of 26whp in 3rd = 26whp in 4th = 26whp in 5th?
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ohhh so now everyone's a believer...hmmmm
Everyone is a believer their new numbers are more accurate than the first round of dynos producing 40whp yes.
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Well I'm not too concerned about this mistake (where exactly 'overseas' are they made then?). Partly because the link was not available and I even stated at the time that I was unsure anticipating that there would be a correction rather than vague innuendo and a customer or two that saw a jig. You need jigs to make prototypes. You also cut up and tacked together that STI/Legacy GT header as a prototype. So I'm putting two and two together. The flange to primary sections and collectors are identical as is the secondary collector.

And as to relying on your statements, well your track record on this site isn't that great. We get the website saying 'overseas' and you saying 'in house'. So in between would be a reworked overseas part.

I think I'm doing a pretty good job listening, how about you? How did you miss the flywheel checking suggestion I made early on?
You are trying to hard to prove something. That clearly is pointing some direction. I have not seen you ask other vendors these same questions. Hidden Agenda Much?
Every shop took Subaru parts and looked at this car. You have to start some place. But I am sure you know how to fab up stuff right? If you knew anything you would know that none of that stuff fits. Hell a lot of vendors here sell the rear suspension bits off wrx. Don't see you calling them out. Also I said it and one more time. These are NOT made overseas. These are being made in house in Arizona. So the whole overseas point is dead.
You assume way to much. I have brought FACT to this thread. You have only added assumptions and second hand info at best. Over and Over again. Time for the Troll to move on.

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Old 07-28-2012, 07:47 PM   #76
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Everyone is a believer their new numbers are more accurate than the first round of dynos producing 40whp yes.
Remember these runs where not with a lightweight flywheel and clutch.
So add that in and we are going to see more gains again. Just like others in this thread have already spoken about.
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Let's ask all the other vendors where their stuff is made...I'm not sure you guys really want to know....
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:56 PM   #78
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Need to do runs in 5th gear which is our 1:1 gear to get as close as possible whp that the engine is producing.

Any other gear under that and your multiplying the actual HP the engine is producing.
I'm sorry, but you have no idea what you're talking about.
Power is a function of force, distance, and time. We can rearrange this to be force and velocity as velocity is a function of distance and time.
Because of this you coulddyno in any gear and the only reason there would be any difference I numbers would be due to the greater angular acceleration of the drive train in lower gears, resulting in lower whp numbers.
I can go into detail if you wish but its basic physics and probably not necessary.
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Agency power, keep up the good work, half of the guys giving you crap dont even own an frs or brz, they just sit in their moms basement and go on forums to feel better about themselves.

Would i be able to purchase the header and midpipe and bolt them to my stock axleback? Im assuming i would need a small reducer flange....
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ohhh so now everyone's a believer...hmmmm
Because now there seems to be more method behind the madness.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:20 PM   #81
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Do you have a weight of the catback versus the stock one? Just figured I'd ask.
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:24 PM   #82
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Why would I state that ONLY FRS/BRZ componets are the being made in the U.S.A. Do you know any different? AP was behind in making the 1st run because the AP guys were working on finishing up some 997TT and BMW parts. In House!



http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/...ID=24&CDpath=0

Where are you getting your facts on this is Chinese knock off stuff? I do not see it posted in link. I mean if we are going to get technical right? "overseas" Doesn't say China. Next, you also claim you knew they were made in China in the 1st thread., but now state you were not aware things have changed. So you really do not know what you are talking about then right. So it would be safe to say maybe you should slow it down. I mean you just made a mistake right? So should I now try and hang you for it? I will point it out but not charge after you over it.

Next you do not listen. The Header is made in house. People that have stopped by have also told you its being made in house. They have seen how its made. And no I am not going to post how we do it. Its been said over and over again.

Now I might check back in here between now and Monday. But since I have weekends off. I missed a Subaru Event invite to Pismo and have a family life. I'm going to go enjoy my day.

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Just wanted to say I'd like to come in on Monday and see about helping you with a sale. I was in there last week looking at some GramLights 57Xtremes but i think I'll start with the full exhaust
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I have weights and everything. Just need time to add it all.
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As for the 1:1 gear ratio debate it depends on the dyno being used and how it calculates horsepower. Some dynos may not take into account the gear ratio being used and calculate power based on the speed of the rollers and the mass of the vehicle only. Obviously at this point a lower gear gives a higher mechanical advantage.

I don't think the Mustang works quite that way and the gear selection has less of an outcome on the horsepower/torque numbers.

Either way it was all done in a consistent manner and saw very good gains when you look at the percentages.
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