86 Japan Live - Tons of GR86 and BRZ

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

Those tiny sidewalls on the tires are going to be a real treat to anyone driving on roads that aren't perfect.

This is a Japanese market oriented product line which has not been intended for abroad. And Japan has glass smooth asphalt in most places, so over there, this is not a problem at all. There are great 19" tire choices there as well.

I've used 19" in California and bent my rims on $3000 sets of Vossen-Work on my FR-S though. LOL

You are right about American roads. We can't play with ultra low profile tires... Tesla didn't know this very well and had a havoc with their Model S in the last few years.

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by Pat

ZOMG centerlox!

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Well, seeing it with 5x100 lugs, the centerlock design seems to be just a decorative touch as centercaps.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

I think the design of that steering wheel is not going to age well.

I'd much rather prefer the same info to be displayed on a HUD reflection in the windshield, fighter jet / Corvette style.

I like the steering wheel design, minus the LED tid bits. Hopefully they will offer that as an option.

[Moto-P]

Original 1st Gen Chief Designer, Mr.Furukawa, didn't have any input on the second generation GR86/BRZ, but it seems he has had the task of exterior design concept of the 2nd Gen's SARD GT1 Concept.

He sent me this to share, and while he isn't in charge of SARD Racing's product plans and exports, he hopes that his design will be available in the USA and Europe.

[Cephas]

Front end has kind of a Tesla vibe to it. I kinda dig it! Also that wing is perfect.

[quik1987]

Reminds me of this

[boy_racer]

Full review of the event in Japan.HKS GR86 sounds amazing(18:50)

[StraightOuttaCanadaEh]

I like the wing and the tail lights. The rest is a bit awkward looking

[Dadhawk]

Love the color.

I have to wonder if the side panels don't end up causing an issue where it creates a channel between the built-in aero and the added black lip. Maybe it's not as big a gap as it looks but it seems like it would cause issues (not to mention not crazy how it looks).

As @saltywetman says, it just doesn't look exactly right, particularly at the rear.

[Dake]

Originally Posted by saltywetman

After seeing all the vids, is it just me or does gen 1 body is more suited for aftermarket aero parts? With the gr86 it seems like the OEM body is already designed with an aero kit and most of the kits cept greddy and Tom's look a bit overkill

Same here. The only thing I like on any of them so far is the color-matched trunk trim strip.

[MJones_RB]

There's some beautiful work here (and some off choices) but I just feel like we've seen a lot of this with the first BRZ/FR-S introduction almost 10 years ago. A lot of stick-on body parts and anodized suspension bits.

Maybe I'm just getting old...

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by MJones_RB

There's some beautiful work here (and some off choices) but I just feel like we've seen a lot of this with the first BRZ/FR-S introduction almost 10 years ago. A lot of stick-on body parts and anodized suspension bits.

Maybe I'm just getting old...

Nothing wrong with keeping the concepts that were popular and having another generation of enthusiasts continue to enjoy it I suppose!

For people in highly restricted places like California and parts of Europe where engine swaps are next to impossible or really cumbersome and expensive to legalize, the updated engine is a really welcome change I think.

[boy_racer]

Originally Posted by Moto-P

For people in highly restricted places like California and parts of Europe where engine swaps are next to impossible or really cumbersome and expensive to legalize, the updated engine is a really welcome change I think.

As a European citizen,If it wasn't a 2.4L engine i would agree.Europe has high taxes in a lot of countries,above 2000cc.Even though i do prefer the naturally aspirated engine and it's purpose,in Europe a smaller turbocharged engine(maybe 1800cc?) with low CO2 would be a better choice for sales numbers.

[Moto-P]

Originally Posted by boy_racer

As a European citizen, If it wasn't a 2.4L engine i would agree. Europe has high taxes in a lot of countries, above 2000cc.Even though i do prefer the naturally aspirated engine and it's purpose, in Europe a smaller turbocharged engine(maybe 1800cc?) with low CO2 would be a better choice for sales numbers.

Yes, I see where you're stuck with 2.4L FA24 now.
I think this choice was more Subaru side decision who has much bigger stake in the USA/Canada region.

You see with Toyota, Honda, or Nissan it isn't the case where you see many 2.0L and smaller engine sizes for specifically the European and Japanese markets. This is the primary reason the A90 Supra comes in the 2.0L turbo, which really has no reason to exist in the USA.