AIRAID FR-S / BRZ Cold Air Intake system Sneak Peak / Development Information

[Chewie4299]

I read through a lot of the earlier parts of this thread and skimmed the rest. I have a few questions that I'm sure plenty of folks can answer.

My initial goal as far as power mods includes intake, full exhaust, and lightweight pulley. I'm reading about lightweight flywheels as well but I'm on the fence there.

Ultimately I will be combining all this with a tune to maximize the benefits. I'd like to break the 200whp mark while staying NA if possible. I'm hoping as tuning really starts showing us the engine's potential with bolt-ons this will be doable. I'd also like for the car to sound mean but not obnoxious.

Someone in another thread mentioned they had a min/maxing problem stemming from RPG gaming. I'm there too, unfortunately. This means I want to be absolutely sure that the parts I buy rank at or near the top in terms of potential in each category.

My first question as far as this intake is concerned has to do with power making potential. I'm not after the highest peak power if it means losses everywhere else but if possible I want the greatest gains across the majority of the power band. I've got experience only with the more traditional, at least to me, CAI in which a long intake tube moves the filter out of the engine bay entirely. I've got no experience with the aftermarket air box type of intake. I'm not opposed to the idea but I'm curious as to how the pros and cons compare to those of the AEM CAI I had in my old Lancer before my Evo.

Compared to this type of CAI would I be leaving slightly more potential on the table by going with an air box style intake?


Secondly, and I don't recall seeing this asked anywhere, between oiled and dry filters which is better? I tried some brief Google research on this and found nothing conclusive or even anything directly comparing the two. Which tends to make more power? Which is safer for the engine?

Lastly, sound. Lowest priority but it does matter to me. Previous intakes have done a lot to improve the engine noise in my past cars. Especially under WOT. What does this intake sound like? Someone said they didn't think it changed the sound of the engine much at all. I want a nice growl.

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[Captain Snooze]

I am some what anal about filtration. Along with the oil filter I replace the fuel and air filter every 10,000 kilometers. Could Airaid recommend a disposable pleated paper filter that would be suitable for this kit?

Ta

[civicdrivr]

I saw one of the prototypes yesterday. Very nice

[Keith@AIRAID]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I am some what anal about filtration. Along with the oil filter I replace the fuel and air filter every 10,000 kilometers. Could Airaid recommend a disposable pleated paper filter that would be suitable for this kit?

Ta

The filter was designed specifically for this kit, but I can provide dimensions so you can try to source something. The inlet is 120mm or 4.75" and it is roughly 6.5" long and 6" diameter at the widest point.

[Keith@AIRAID]

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

My first question as far as this intake is concerned has to do with power making potential. I'm not after the highest peak power if it means losses everywhere else but if possible I want the greatest gains across the majority of the power band. I've got experience only with the more traditional, at least to me, CAI in which a long intake tube moves the filter out of the engine bay entirely. I've got no experience with the aftermarket air box type of intake. I'm not opposed to the idea but I'm curious as to how the pros and cons compare to those of the AEM CAI I had in my old Lancer before my Evo.

Compared to this type of CAI would I be leaving slightly more potential on the table by going with an air box style intake?

The type of CAI you are talking about does get a lot of cold air, but it does so by making compromises for real world driving. The Airaid intake gets air that is just as cold from the front bumper (just like stock) and without the risk of hanging your filter out by your front tire. Also, there are a lot more factors in making power than just getting colder air. Increased, laminar air flow and a good MAF signal are key to making power.

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

Secondly, and I don't recall seeing this asked anywhere, between oiled and dry filters which is better? I tried some brief Google research on this and found nothing conclusive or even anything directly comparing the two. Which tends to make more power? Which is safer for the engine?

Check post 116 on page 6 for a video explaining the differences.

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

Lastly, sound. Lowest priority but it does matter to me. Previous intakes have done a lot to improve the engine noise in my past cars. Especially under WOT. What does this intake sound like? Someone said they didn't think it changed the sound of the engine much at all. I want a nice growl.

The test driver that posted that comment was referring to the sound under light to partial throttle. At full throttle it has that deep growl that everyone likes. It sounds awesome and really wakes this engine up. Our first tester said his car felt really boring after we put it back to stock. He missed the extra power and sound! I will work on getting some video and sound clips up, but right now the intakes are out on test vehicles that I don't have access to.

[microcarmag]

Can't wait to get my hands on this product... Will be a first time trying out an AIRAID product...

[Bu-Tang]

Keith, your dry filter out flows the suction force of the motor correct?

[Chewie4299]

Originally Posted by Keith@AIRAID

The type of CAI you are talking about does get a lot of cold air, but it does so by making compromises for real world driving. The Airaid intake gets air that is just as cold from the front bumper (just like stock) and without the risk of hanging your filter out by your front tire. Also, there are a lot more factors in making power than just getting colder air. Increased, laminar air flow and a good MAF signal are key to making power.



Check post 116 on page 6 for a video explaining the differences.



The test driver that posted that comment was referring to the sound under light to partial throttle. At full throttle it has that deep growl that everyone likes. It sounds awesome and really wakes this engine up. Our first tester said his car felt really boring after we put it back to stock. He missed the extra power and sound! I will work on getting some video and sound clips up, but right now the intakes are out on test vehicles that I don't have access to.

Thanks for the answers. I plan on tuning to maximize the gains from my exhaust and intake systems + any other mods I decide on. Is this intake designed with that in mind? Or is this mainly designed to maximize gains with the stock tune and if so do you plan to release a different intake that will require a tune like some other companies plan to do?

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[Keith@AIRAID]

Originally Posted by Bu-Tang

Keith, your dry filter out flows the suction force of the motor correct?

Yes, by a lot. I don't have numbers offhand, but all of our filters flow way beyond the requirements of the engine.

[Keith@AIRAID]

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

Thanks for the answers. I plan on tuning to maximize the gains from my exhaust and intake systems + any other mods I decide on. Is this intake designed with that in mind? Or is this mainly designed to maximize gains with the stock tune and if so do you plan to release a different intake that will require a tune like some other companies plan to do?

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You should be able to see nice gains with our intake and a tune. Luckily the way the tube is designed, we can change the ID and make a "tune required" kit without a ton of work or cost, but that will be decided by the market.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by Keith@AIRAID

You should be able to see nice gains with our intake and a tune. Luckily the way the tube is designed, we can change the ID and make a "tune required" kit without a ton of work or cost, but that will be decided by the market.

I'd imagine that only turbo guys will want larger ID tubes, in which case they'll already have something custom fabbed for their particular setup.

[AJUSA.com]

This intake will make gains with or without a tune. As mentioned above, the system can far outflow the CFM requirement of even a modified engine. A tune should work synergistically with bolt on pieces to extract max power, the Airaid unit looks to be no different.

[mattles]

Originally Posted by Keith@AIRAID

The type of CAI you are talking about does get a lot of cold air, but it does so by making compromises for real world driving. The Airaid intake gets air that is just as cold from the front bumper (just like stock) and without the risk of hanging your filter out by your front tire. Also, there are a lot more factors in making power than just getting colder air. Increased, laminar air flow and a good MAF signal are key to making power.



Check post 116 on page 6 for a video explaining the differences.



The test driver that posted that comment was referring to the sound under light to partial throttle. At full throttle it has that deep growl that everyone likes. It sounds awesome and really wakes this engine up. Our first tester said his car felt really boring after we put it back to stock. He missed the extra power and sound! I will work on getting some video and sound clips up, but right now the intakes are out on test vehicles that I don't have access to.

As that first tester, I just wanted to chime in and say my car is STILL boring. Cant wait for the finished product to be released so I can get that intake back on.

[AJUSA.com]

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