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Dzmitry · 05-17-2021, 09:03 AM

Interesting... unless I missed something along the way in the past month, the spec sheet posted above doesn't seem to match up to what we've seen. But quite possibly due to it being slightly different in another region. Two things that caught my eye was:

1. No MT specs are shown (again, likely a region thing).
2. Compression ratio of 12.5, not 13.5 like we've seen in other specs.

Weird.

boy_racer · 05-17-2021, 12:09 PM

Compression ratio was one of the first things everybody noticed since day one of the GR86 presentation!

timurrrr · 05-17-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dzmitry

Interesting... unless I missed something along the way in the past month, the spec sheet posted above doesn't seem to match up to what we've seen. But quite possibly due to it being slightly different in another region. Two things that caught my eye was:

1. No MT specs are shown (again, likely a region thing).
2. Compression ratio of 12.5, not 13.5 like we've seen in other specs.

Weird.

And 7400 rpm redline...
Feels like some marketing intern messed up when copy-and-pasting things between PowerPoint presentations?

dave11 · 05-17-2021, 06:01 PM

It sure looks a lot like the 370Z.

Yoshoobaroo · 05-17-2021, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dave11

It sure looks a lot like the 370Z.

Yep, 4 wheels, 2 lights on each end, intakes in the front and exhaust in the back. identical.

Dzmitry · 05-18-2021, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by timurrrr

And 7400 rpm redline...
Feels like some marketing intern messed up when copy-and-pasting things between PowerPoint presentations?

Lol... at this point, even when the cars are fully released and specs are "confirmed", I still won't know what to believe

Tcoat · 05-18-2021, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dzmitry

Lol... at this point, even when the cars are fully released and specs are "confirmed", I still won't know what to believe

Make's it hard for me to rag on the clickbaits when Subaru/Toyota can't say the same thing twice in a row!

Cephas · 05-18-2021, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

Make's it hard for me to rag on the clickbaits when Subaru/Toyota can't say the same thing twice in a row!

I have faith that you'll somehow still find a way.

beltax90 · 05-18-2021, 12:23 PM

.

twodollarcuts · 05-18-2021, 03:37 PM

I feel like a lot of the 4's are a pride thing. I keep telling myself my BRZ looks better but when I initially see these new models I think that they are very nice. Would love the instrument cluster and I'd take a steaming pile of dog sh*t over my stock head unit so I'd definitely take that, too.

Veloist · 05-18-2021, 07:28 PM

I find the GR 86 better-looking than the GR Supra. Once your brain processes that the GR Supra’s headlights are oversized for the width of the front bumper, it just starts looking awkward especially when the nose comes in.

I’m not hating on the design but when I see the clean, simple front-end of the GR 86 right next to it, it’s not hard to realize how busy the GR Supra is and makes it easy to appreciate clean & simple designs.

Yoshoobaroo · 05-18-2021, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Veloist

I find the GR 86 better-looking than the GR Supra.]

I don't think that's a controversial opinion.

Blighty · 05-18-2021, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Red-86

0-60/0-100 times are funny, they are all over the place. Some manufacturers underrate, some overrate, so it is difficult to compare official numbers. Only way to be sure is test the cars back to back on the same track, on the same day with the same driver and testing gear. Anything else is subject to too much variance and uncertainty.

Whilst it would be great to see a full 1 sec improvement in the 0-100 time, I’m also sceptical. That’s a significant reduction for a fairly modest power and torque bump, but maybe it’s possible. More importantly the added torque should make the car feel stronger in routine driving. The twins were never the car to get for rapid acceleration and drag races from red lights - so many quicker cars around for that.

Its the weight being so low still. I can totally believe those numbers.

The base GR86 actually has a greater power to weight than a base WRX here in Australia.

WRX 1447kg @ 197kw = 136.14 kw/t
GR86 1270kg @ 173kw = 136.22 kw/t

nikitopo · 05-19-2021, 09:16 AM

Power figures doesn't mean much alone, unless you are looking for top speed numbers. It is the power to weight ratio that matters most.

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