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ZDan · 05-17-2021, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vides990

No it is not, this is incorrect.

Of course it is subjective. If it isn't, again I invite you to share with us precisely what "flow" objectively *is* for the 1st and 2nd gens. Take it away...

Dake · 05-17-2021, 02:24 PM

YES IT IS

NO IT ISN'T

I think one of you is arguing flow as in the properties of fluid dynamics and the other is arguing flow as in an aesthetic collection of lines and curves. An item can flow aesthetically yet have terrible "flow" where air movement is concerned or vice versa. For example, many of the "aerodynamic" automotive stylings from the fifties and sixties were anything but. One could argue that they both flowed and did not flow.

In connection to the twins, the earlier version has an appreciably low Coefficient of Drag, so it could be argued to "flow" in both manners. We don't have numbers for the new one yet, leaving only the subjective aesthetic version available for comment at the moment (and I do personally agree that the front half and the back half don't quite fit together for me, even if it's growing on me a bit).

So you're both right, calm down.

Vides990 · 05-17-2021, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan

Of course it is subjective. If it isn't, again I invite you to share with us precisely what "flow" objectively *is* for the 1st and 2nd gens. Take it away...

The person below you didn't have any issues understanding, maybe you just need a solid re-read, as it's already been stated.

ZDan · 05-17-2021, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vides990

The person below you didn't have any issues understanding, maybe you just need a solid re-read, as it's already been stated.

You're talking out of your *
The End

Wally86 · 05-17-2021, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vides990

The person below you didn't have any issues understanding, maybe you just need a solid re-read, as it's already been stated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDan

You're talking out of your *
The End

Get a room!

Vides990 · 05-17-2021, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDan

You're talking out of your *
The End

DarkSideFRS · 05-17-2021, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ZDan

You're talking out of your *
The End

fanboys need to learn when they have been put in their place

Willpower · 05-17-2021, 06:33 PM

DarkSideFRS you are indeed a hateful, soulless and humorless bastard with little of value to offer. Having said that, you have to admit that ZDan’s previous “the hate is strong with this one” regarding you was pretty damn funny. I do understand however that you may be angry due to his clever quip that describes you adequately in just a few words, and at your expense. Still, you should let these two fight amongst themselves, because in wading in to subjects that are clearly over your head, you risk drowning in your own stupidity and general lack of couth, while entertaining us with your floundering in a sea of relative intelligence and more refined sensibilities.

Yoshoobaroo · 05-17-2021, 07:44 PM

Lol. More reliable. You must never have had to deal with 70s or 80s cars, your bellyaching would have literally killed you.

Didn't you sell your car after the recall? The vast majority of recalled 2013's are absolutely fine.

HKz · 05-17-2021, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkSideFRS

clever quip? lol

i AM a hater of this platform and i am not denying anything.. loved how the first gen looks, but the motor is terrible... 2nd came out looking like a hack job aesthetically, but hopefully the motor will be more reliable.... why can't they just give us both reliability and good looks?

jesus christ...like listening to a 8 year old girl. do you even know how statistics work? the twins are the most sold sports car Toyota & Subie has ever sold and it was statistically the most reliable Toyota & Subaru according to consumer reports, can you at least be a reliable hater and hate on something significant or real? just total smh, I'm embarrassed for ya.. I had over 60 K on my first twin before she got totaled, and I'm currently past 70 K with no major issues, so with 130 K miles can I say tout the opposite and believe this is the most reliable car ever?

Transport3r · 05-17-2021, 08:53 PM

There are over 30k 2013s in the US and Canada alone. How many failed after the valve spring recall?

Willpower · 05-17-2021, 09:08 PM

Hey DarkSide you know I was just jerking your chain with a lame attempt at humor right? I mean you must because you were a good sport about it. Sorry you had trouble with yours but I bet if you bought a 17 up, you’d be thrilled. Overall they are statistically pretty damn solid. I do realize though that when you yourself had a lemon, it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth, understandably so.

Willpower · 05-17-2021, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Lol. More reliable. You must never have had to deal with 70s or 80s cars, your bellyaching would have literally killed you.

Didn't you sell your car after the recall? The vast majority of recalled 2013's are absolutely fine.

True, but they were glorious!

Cephas · 05-17-2021, 09:46 PM

Imagine staying on a forum for a platform you admittedly hate.

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05-17-2021, 02:24 PM	#2004
Dake Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: FR-S Location: Houston Posts: 1,078 Thanks: 468 Thanked 832 Times in 420 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	YES IT IS NO IT ISN'T I think one of you is arguing flow as in the properties of fluid dynamics and the other is arguing flow as in an aesthetic collection of lines and curves. An item can flow aesthetically yet have terrible "flow" where air movement is concerned or vice versa. For example, many of the "aerodynamic" automotive stylings from the fifties and sixties were anything but. One could argue that they both flowed and did not flow. In connection to the twins, the earlier version has an appreciably low Coefficient of Drag, so it could be argued to "flow" in both manners. We don't have numbers for the new one yet, leaving only the subjective aesthetic version available for comment at the moment (and I do personally agree that the front half and the back half don't quite fit together for me, even if it's growing on me a bit). So you're both right, calm down.

05-17-2021, 06:33 PM	#2010
Willpower The Power of Will Join Date: Jul 2017 Drives: 17 BRZ PP, 02 S2000, 21 Mojave Location: South Carolina :/ Posts: 171 Thanks: 228 Thanked 162 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	DarkSideFRS you are indeed a hateful, soulless and humorless bastard with little of value to offer. Having said that, you have to admit that ZDan’s previous “the hate is strong with this one” regarding you was pretty damn funny. I do understand however that you may be angry due to his clever quip that describes you adequately in just a few words, and at your expense. Still, you should let these two fight amongst themselves, because in wading in to subjects that are clearly over your head, you risk drowning in your own stupidity and general lack of couth, while entertaining us with your floundering in a sea of relative intelligence and more refined sensibilities.

05-17-2021, 08:53 PM	#2013
Transport3r Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Drives: - Location: US Posts: 288 Thanks: 203 Thanked 294 Times in 147 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	There are over 30k 2013s in the US and Canada alone. How many failed after the valve spring recall?

05-17-2021, 09:08 PM	#2014
Willpower The Power of Will Join Date: Jul 2017 Drives: 17 BRZ PP, 02 S2000, 21 Mojave Location: South Carolina :/ Posts: 171 Thanks: 228 Thanked 162 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hey DarkSide you know I was just jerking your chain with a lame attempt at humor right? I mean you must because you were a good sport about it. Sorry you had trouble with yours but I bet if you bought a 17 up, you’d be thrilled. Overall they are statistically pretty damn solid. I do realize though that when you yourself had a lemon, it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth, understandably so.

05-17-2021, 09:46 PM	#2016
Cephas Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2017 Toyota 86 (860 SE) Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 329 Thanks: 537 Thanked 434 Times in 167 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Imagine staying on a forum for a platform you admittedly hate.

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