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Old 04-15-2011, 07:48 PM   #393
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lol nah they're good parents, they just think getting their kids cars is excessive and spoils them. It's okay at least I will feel extra proud of my first car, since it'll have been bought with my own money.

Well I won't pretend I'm happy with this, where I go to school there is no such thing as a senior who doesn't have a car I get pretty pissed when I see that kid with his M5...
Don't worry. My parents did not buy me a car either. I saved up like 4 years for that thing. It was well worth it. Taught me how to save up money for major purchases, how to take care of my car (if something broke, guess who would have to pay to get it fixed and no it wasn't my parents), how to be proud of something you saved up for...etc. I don't plan on buying my kids a car outright. They will have to work and save up for it.

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I still don't know why people don't understand that.. You lift the hood on any scion and everything is labeled Toyota. they are built by Toyota and Sold at Toyota Dealerships.. Its like Old Navy=Gap=Banana Republic .. all they same stuff just at different prices..

True, Scion and Toyota are the same, but I think people are also concerned about what kind of image the car will give off to others who see them.

As of right now the image scion gives off to other car enthusiasts is Ricer-wanna-be, Douche-bag, poser or high-school-pimple-face-kid (Of course there's also an exception that not everyone who owns a scion is like that). Its the same with clothing. Abercrombie and Fitch > Hollister > American Eagle > Aeropostal > Walmart.

Image plays a role in everything, but of course--not everyone really cares.
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I still don't know why people don't understand that.. You lift the hood on any scion and everything is labeled Toyota. they are built by Toyota and Sold at Toyota Dealerships.. Its like Old Navy=Gap=Banana Republic .. all they same stuff just at different prices..
Oh yeah? My IS labeled Toyota all over it, does that make it a Toyota? What about LFA? If it's all the same, I should choose 4 Runner over GX460 because they are the same. The different is the pricing, isn't that right? And no, not all Scion dealerships are with Toyota ones.
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True, Scion and Toyota are the same, but I think people are also concerned about what kind of image the car will give off to others who see them.

As of right now the image scion gives off to other car enthusiasts is Ricer-wanna-be, Douche-bag, poser or high-school-pimple-face-kid (Of course there's also an exception that not everyone who owns a scion is like that). Its the same with clothing. Abercrombie and Fitch > Hollister > American Eagle > Aeropostal > Walmart.

Image plays a role in everything, but of course--not everyone really cares.
its sad the people care about image that. much.. most of the time it keeps them from trying something they might end up really enjoying...

but I do own a few of these .. My boys company makes them ..
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Oh yeah? My IS labeled Toyota all over it, does that make it a Toyota? What about LFA? If it's all the same, I should choose 4 Runner over GX460 because they are the same. The different is the pricing, isn't that right? And no, not all Scion dealerships are with Toyota ones.
basically yes... Your IS for year was Toyota all over the world only in the US was it Lexus... LFA is a Lexus with Lexus is Toyota... and for the 4 Runner if you want to pay extra for all the luxury stuff.. then go for it.. as for the Scion Dealerships no they are not.. but very very few are.. but they are still linked to some Toyota dealership..
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its sad the people care about image that. much.. most of the time it keeps them from trying something they might end up really enjoying...

but I do own a few of these .. My boys company makes them ..
You can blame the Media. Lol

As for that shirt... Iono.. Goes both ways. Doesn't help the spelling isn't correct either. Haha
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basically yes... Your IS for year was Toyota all over the world only in the US was it Lexus... LFA is a Lexus with Lexus is Toyota... and for the 4 Runner if you want to pay extra for all the luxury stuff.. then go for it.. as for the Scion Dealerships no they are not.. but very very few are.. but they are still linked to some Toyota dealership..
Are you sure that IS250/350 are Toyota in the other parts of the world? Lexus is established in Japan in 2006, how comes IS 250 sell in Japan or other markets as Toyota? It's like saying Maybach is Mercedes Benz, Rolls Royce is BMW. It's also like saying that Subaru is Toyota, since Toyota owns 15% of Fuji industry. Basically yes, not it's not the way it is.
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Are you sure that IS250/350 are Toyota in the other parts of the world? Lexus is established in Japan in 2006, how comes IS 250 sell in Japan or other markets as Toyota? It's like saying Maybach is Mercedes Benz, Rolls Royce is BMW. It's also like saying that Subaru is Toyota, since Toyota owns 15% of Fuji industry. Basically yes, not it's not the way it is.

not the IS250 or 350 .. I was talking about the Toyota Altezza... be for a long time Lexus was just a US brand.. Kind of like Scion is just US/ North America Brand right now.. while its cars are sold around the world under the Toyota emblem .. At the end of the day.. It is just en Emblem the cars are still built by Toyota.. or are they not ??... (and yes their are exceptions to that.. but the majority of the cars line up is )
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You can blame the Media. Lol

As for that shirt... Iono.. Goes both ways. Doesn't help the spelling isn't correct either. Haha
The spelling is meant to be like that for a reason... kind of like "Iono" ..
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not the IS250 or 350 .. I was talking about the Toyota Altezza... be for a long time Lexus was just a US brand.. Kind of like Scion is just US/ North America Brand right now.. while its cars are sold around the world under the Toyota emblem .. At the end of the day.. It is just en Emblem the cars are still built by Toyota.. or are they not ??... (and yes their are exceptions to that.. but the majority of the cars line up is )
Yes Altezza was originally Toyota, but it's not the case for present time because there is no such a thing as Altezza is IS series. Scion is built by Toyota because its cars share Toyota badge in the other part of the world.
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I really hope LSD comes 'standard' on this car if its being sold as a Scion.

They want $2200 to install the TRD LSD for the xB as an option. Thats insanely overpriced.

tC doesn't even have the option to install it. Dragon, tC come standard with LSD?

The 05-06 tC didn't, the 07+ tC did. The 2011 tC does not because of the new 6spd trans hasn't had one developed....Yet



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its sad the people care about image that. much.. most of the time it keeps them from trying something they might end up really enjoying...

but I do own a few of these .. My boys company makes them ..


I want that shirt minus the face

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Yes Altezza was originally Toyota, but it's not the case for present time because there is no such a thing as Altezza is IS series. Scion is built by Toyota because its cars share Toyota badge in the other part of the world.
So are you saying that Lexus is not Toyota Brand any more? and still does not share parts with other Toyota cars ? or even Scion ? ..
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So are you saying that Lexus is not Toyota Brand any more? and still does not share parts with other Toyota cars ? or even Scion ? ..
Now you're lost. Baybach and Roller share technologies, probably parts with MB and BMW, respectively. Does that matter make Maybach MB, and Roller BMW? No. What about Buggati Veyron and Volkswagen Jetta? You got the point yet?
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