Expert prognosis for the planet

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Who the fuck cares what you guys think, other than yourselves of course. I could launch a hot air balloon with three of you discussing world peace.

Let's talk man. I've seen you've been shitting in a lot of threads. What's up with that? You just bored or intending to be annoying or what?

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Who the fuck cares what you guys think, other than yourselves of course. I could launch a hot air balloon with three of you discussing world peace.

If you don't care, why are you joining the conversation?

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Who the fuck cares what you guys think, other than yourselves of course. I could launch a hot air balloon with three of you discussing world peace.

My wife cares what I think. Other family and friends do too.

Many humans care about the topics we are discussing, which is the point of the thread.

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

The great Pacific garbage patch has nothing on this thread

Besides polluting the oceans, which affects marine ecologies that directly impact the general balance of plants, animals and the climate all over the world, there is this which is concerning:

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-unborn-babies

Microplastics revealed in the placentas of unborn babies

Health impact is unknown but scientists say particles may cause long-term damage to foetuses

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33395930/

Plasticenta: First evidence of microplastics in human placenta

[Lantanafrs2]

This is a forum where people sell their superchargers and cold air intakes for a loss a month after proclaiming how they made the car the way it should've been from the factory. We aren't qualified to save the world

[spcmafia]

Man, here I was thinking this is where I could find those hot single russian moms willing to meet me. My bad guys. I'll see my self out.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by spcmafia

Man, here I was thinking this is where I could find those hot single russian moms willing to meet me. My bad guys. I'll see my self out.

Would you really want one with kids?

[Irace86.2.0]

Here are some counter arguments against going vegan or reducing animal consumption, as it pertains to emissions, ecological impact, land and water use, etc. It is well made video, and it is convincing, but there are a lot of holes in the arguments. Nevertheless, I thought it would be worth posting "the other sides's" arguments (I have to feel some of them were intentional):

[Lantanafrs2]

Theories that can be argued ad nauseam. Humans weren't designed to be herbivores.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Theories that can be argued ad nauseam. Humans weren't designed to be herbivores.

Actually since we are omnivores we can do either.

[Irace86.2.0]

There is a zero waste movement. That shit is hard, but there is a reason why it is growing, and it is because recycling isn’t doing well and can’t do it all for us.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

There is a zero waste movement. That shit is hard, but there is a reason why it is growing, and it is because recycling isn’t doing well and can’t do it all for us.

For reference, the first video has 5:30 of actual content, the rest was advertising. Start at 2:00 if you can't be bothered.

Recommend the second video in particular if anyone hasn't heard about how recycling used to "work" and how it doesn't now. Does a good job of explaining it. Note that it is particularly true for plastics, but I recall that metals and clean corrugated cardboard were still valuable recyclables in particular. Meaning, it is better to recycle than just trash everything, but it is not as effective as people are led to believe.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Spuds

Recommend the second video in particular if anyone hasn't heard about how recycling used to "work" and how it doesn't now. ...

Unless I missed it, neither of these videos place the "origin story" where it should be, on the manufacturers of the products, and their primary markets.

Take plastic grocery bags for example. No one "likes" them. Paper bags worked much better, and would actually let you put more than two things in a bag at the same time. There was an art to loading them. A grocery chain I worked for had a contest at their annual picnic where the winner was the person that packed the most items in two bags, and when the bags were cut away the items would stand on their on.

Plastic bottles are another thing that was originally for the convenience of the manufacturers. Glass bottles, which were washed and reused, then ultimately melted down to make new bottles, were great. The deposit required for them also benefited anyone that was willing to pick them up and return them. As a child I funded my sweet tooth and my BB ammo needs almost exclusively with bottle returns.

Plasma gasification of waste products shows a lot of promise, and may be soon used on the Gerald Ford class aircraft carriers.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

Unless I missed it, neither of these videos place the "origin story" where it should be, on the manufacturers of the products, and their primary markets.

Take plastic grocery bags for example. No one "likes" them. Paper bags worked much better, and would actually let you put more than two things in a bag at the same time. There was an art to loading them. A grocery chain I worked for had a contest at their annual picnic where the winner was the person that packed the most items in two bags, and when the bags were cut away the items would stand on their on.

Plastic bottles are another thing that was originally for the convenience of the manufacturers. Glass bottles, which were washed and reused, then ultimately melted down to make new bottles, were great. The deposit required for them also benefited anyone that was willing to pick them up and return them. As a child I funded my sweet tooth and my BB ammo needs almost exclusively with bottle returns.

Plasma gasification of waste products shows a lot of promise, and may be soon used on the Gerald Ford class aircraft carriers.

I think the second video did mentioned that.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

https://blabbermouth.net/news/hardco...pacity-limits/

I am not following the connection between that article (regarding an event exceeding maximum size due to Covid-19) and this particular topic (regarding environmental concerns).

Edit, the quoted post seems to have been removed.