Vacci-Nation [CLOSED DUE TO DISRESPECTFUL, INSULTING, POLITICAL POSTS

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

The virus is here. The vaccine provides immunity for the individual. I take it the nurse wasn't vaccinated?

This is where you are mistaken. Vaccines may provide immunity for the individual, but their most important contribution is to provide protection and a margin of safety for the whole community. Society is in this as a collective. The sooner we shed the individualist mythology the better off we'll all be.

The firefighter analogy made for interesting reading. It is true that in most, but not all, jurisdictions their job is to put out the fire, full stop. However, the circumstances in which the ire started can have a variety of consequences if a person started it. Obviously, arson is a criminal act. In most places, if someone dies in an arson related fire, a murder charge follows. But even unintentionally started fires can boomerang back to the firebug.

Suppose you do something really stupid and a large brush fire results. In a lot of places, you may very well be billed for the cost of fighting the fire. That can run into real money. On the off chance one of the personnel fighting the fire is killed fighting it, you can expect a homicide charge. It would be interesting to see that same logic applied to anti-vaxers.

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by wbradley

Keep perpetuating the mutation pool and its a matter of time.

But the woman you mentioned obviously wasn't immunized. Working as an rn you'd think she would be.

[Capt Spaulding]

Perhaps she wasn't vaccinated. Perhaps she caught the virus sometime back and has been luxuriating on a ventilator for weeks. Perhaps her employer was negligent in vaccinating their workforce. Regardless, what does it have to do with potential mutations developing among the great voluntarily unvaxed and being inflicted on the rest of society?

As I mentioned sometime back, we still have the opportunity to fuck this whole thing up. From what I've read Modi/India got complacent and are paying a very heavy price for his arrogance. There's a lesson in there somewhere.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by weederr33

You drew first blood, not me.

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In the first book Rambo dies. The test audience for the movie didn't like that so the script was rewritten.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

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In the first book Rambo dies. The test audience for the movie didn't like that so the script was rewritten.

Yup. I remember reading that. Still preferred the film version where it shows the horrors of war and the impact it has on troops struggling to reintegrate into society. A very problematic thing even today. Not that troops don't come home and suffer then kill themselves. But yeah

[Capt Spaulding]

Speaking of criminal liability.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/30/w...smid=url-share

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding

Speaking of criminal liability.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/30/w...smid=url-share

And...his. nose is out of his mask.

My former employer of 17 years ordered their sales team to work during full lockdown. They had half staff per day in the office, around 25 people. The reason? Sales are better than when they work from home. I left disgruntled in 2019 and was so tempted to blow the whistle on those greedy pieces of shit. Then I decided it has minimal effect on me and wasn't worth the time.

[p1l0t]

I was under the understanding it did actually start in Wuhan as well. And it probably* didn't come from bats, it was that lab. But it's not as malicious as people make it sound it was worldwide (funded) effort to fight SARS but it was unfortunately being run in a cheap Chinese lab. Now maybe that's where the racism really was... like hey let's just do it over there.. So I don't think it was malicious unless it was some disgruntled employees or something but I feel like despite the conditions in China its more likely it was just an accident that was pinned on the Chinese even though it was a worldwide effort (at least in terms financial backing) to fight the SARS epidemic. (But this is also what makes me hesitant to take the vaccine because it seems like throwing good money after bad like hey we screwed up but take this we made too to fix it)...


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[weederr33]

Originally Posted by p1l0t

I was under the understanding it did actually start in Wuhan as well. And it probably* didn't come from bats, it was that lab. But it's not as malicious as people make it sound it was worldwide (funded) effort to fight SARS but it was unfortunately being run in a cheap Chinese lab. Now maybe that's where the racism really was... like hey let's just do it over there.. So I don't think it was malicious unless it was some disgruntled employees or something but I feel like despite the conditions in China its more likely it was just an accident that was pinned on the Chinese even though it was a worldwide effort (at least in terms financial backing) to fight the SARS epidemic. (But this is also what makes me hesitant to take the vaccine because it seems like throwing good money after bad like hey we screwed up but take this we made too to fix it)...


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Honestly, I could buy into something similar to that. It could very well have been a lab study (still from a bat or other mammal) and due to poor safety precautions or waste disposal it came into contact with a poor worker. I see that as completely possible as it's a communicable disease and then spread from there. But I do not believe it was some evil experiment. If so, come on, use something more awesome like Ebola or Veganism.

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by weederr33

If so, come on, use something more awesome like Ebola or Veganism.

lolol

[Lantanafrs2]

Well we've certainly come a long way from last night

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by weederr33

But I do not believe it was some evil experiment. If so, come on, use something more awesome like Ebola or Veganism.

i'd really like to be able to fly, or grow a third arm out of my stomach. please tell me there's some evil genius working on one of those things.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i'd really like to be able to fly, or grow a third arm out of my stomach. please tell me there's some evil genius working on one of those things.

lol


Edit: dang, was trying to start it at the 3:01 mark, but won't work.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i'd really like to be able to fly, or grow a third arm out of my stomach. please tell me there's some evil genius working on one of those things.

Probably Russia