Vacci-Nation [CLOSED DUE TO DISRESPECTFUL, INSULTING, POLITICAL POSTS

[dpfarr]

Yo, who’s got that homebrew recipe. Moms doesn’t believe in science. Trying to get her “vaccinated”, fucking oregano oil work?

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by dpfarr

Yo, who’s got that homebrew recipe. Moms doesn’t believe in science. Trying to get her “vaccinated”, fucking oregano oil work?

Just inject some disinfectant. It works tremendously.

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Just inject some disinfectant. It works tremendously.

Cloroxequin "I'm cured!"

[Capt Spaulding]

Originally Posted by Opie

Lots of assumptions here, lol. Love the righteousness you portray. But as typical in discussions these days you cannot state your viewpoint without name calling, very childish. Multiple, credible studies have called into question the effectiveness of masks. Just because your viewpoint differs doesn't make those studies any less important.

Not nearly as many "assumptions" as you want to believe. If you know of studies indicating the ineffectiveness of masks, Great. Cite them. Then we can all read them and give our critical thinking caps some of that exercise you promote.

Originally Posted by Opie

Last I checked our immune system need "exersize" to remain strong against biological attacks. The more we are exposed to things the better the immune system is at fighting them. Same reason you send kids to daycare/school when young, to expose their immune systems to threats. Herd immunity works through exposure including vaccines. The longer the "healthy" portion of our society hides from this virus, the longer herd immunity will take, and the longer we'll have to deal with this.

Common sense over fear.

You guys throw the "fear" critique around a lot. Over a half million people are dead. Does that scare me? I'm not sure. I don't lose sleep or wake up in a sweat. I don't refuse to venture out of my house to go to the store. I do wear a mask, in part to protect me, but mostly in an attempt to contribute to stopping the spread of an evolving pathogen that is still infecting and killing people. Does that make me righteous, self or otherwise? I don't think so. I think it makes me considerate. That appears to be an increasingly rare attribute.

I am in the part of the population the CDC labels "fully" vaccinated. Two doses plus two weeks. I still wear a mask? Why? 1) I know with certainty that I can still contract the virus. The odds are long, but it can happen. It won't make me as sick and almost certainly won't kill me, but if I catch it I may still be able to spread it. A mask lowers the chance of my giving it to others in the event I unknowingly contract it. 2) I want others who are not yet vaccinated to keep wearing masks because I really want to beat the virus down. My wearing one a) may make others who do not know I'm "fully" vaccinated more comfortable because my chances of infecting them are reduced. 2) hopefully serves as an example. If you see me parading around without one basking in my immunized glory you may decide "fuck it, that asshole isn't wearing a mask and toss yours. I'll repeat what I've said a dozen or more times.

I WANT TO BEAT THIS VIRUS.

I am willing to endure some inconvenience and discomfort to do that. The studies I've seen of the effect of masks on aerosol dispersal patterns, and empirical studies on the infection rates with and without masks convince me they will help do that.

You are mimicking the Swedes in your penultimate sentence. Those who study immunology say that natural immunity is much less potent than that conferred by the vaccines. Is that true? I have made a conscious decision to trust those who know more than I do about that question. Why? Because I, as me, don't have expertise in that area. Remember, each new case is a chance for the virus to mutate and circumvent everyone's immunity regardless how acquired. Do you want to get this thing behind us or not? Do you want to get past the acute phase of the pandemic to the stage where we can manage the disease?

If you do, wearing a mask is a relatively effective and low cost way to contribute to that goal. That looks like buckets of win to me.

Now, trot out those studies the demonstrate the ineffectiveness of masking. Full citations, please. APA format.

Common sense over pig headed obstinance.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by JD001

Not just Australia.... We exported all over!!

Yep, the state of Georgia was originally a penal colony. Well, technically it was a debtor's prison.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by JD001

Going by the poll, only 15 visiting this thread care to vote or have had the jab or something..

a lot of that has to do with the general population of off topic, as well as our locations. in much of canada and US, vaccines were age-restricted to people over 60 up until only very recently. i would say about 15 people who regularly visit OT are over that age group, where about the other 10 are under...

my state only recently opened up vaccines to younger age groups. i jumped on it, and still scheduled 3 weeks out.

the eu has been a little more on top of it than the america's.

[wbradley]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Just inject some disinfectant. It works tremendously.

Use Windex!!

Now I undestand why Opie wants to go maskless.

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by Spuds

You do see the irony in your statements right? I think what you are seeing in others is frustration with people who tend to express similar viewpoints as you. Your statements apply more to those aligned with your thoughts as opposed to it.

If you feel you have done enough research to refute the findings and advice of the CDC, please present that research here to me. I have reviewed a number of such presentations on this forum (including now closed threads) and there are always more holes in it than any research supporting the current guidelines. In fact, I was originally opposed to much of the mandates, but found that a difficult position to maintain in the face of overwhelming evidence supporting it.

I often like to propose arguments contrary to the popular opinion myself just for discussion purposes, but this is something that needs to be taken seriously, immediately. As such, I will be following whatever practices the authorities recommend, which may be followed up by asking questions as necessary. Thank you for masking up, regardless of your reason for doing so. Please continue to adhere to social distancing practices and encourage others to do so until we have the virus under control.

The CDC says no travel however is silent about the influx of illegals at the border into the country with no testing or any real concern.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by TommyW

The CDC says no travel however is silent about the influx of illegals at the border into the country with no testing or any real concern.

Have you considered that the CDC is not in charge of border security? It is already illegal to cross into the US without permission. The CDC isn't a police force, what do you expect them to do about it?

Edit, the CDC hasn't remained silent on it, please see covid-19 specific resources for refugees and immigrants. Took me 10 minutes to find, only because it's a government website and we all know how great those are...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...n-toolkit.html

In fact there is a whole section of the website dedicated to immigrant and refuge health.

https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/index.html

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by TommyW

The CDC says no travel however is silent about the influx of illegals at the border into the country with no testing or any real concern.

Stop trying to twist things in your favor. Just stop.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by TommyW

The CDC says no travel however is silent about the influx of illegals at the border into the country with no testing or any real concern.

sir, this is a wendy's.

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Stop trying to twist things in your favor. Just stop.

twisting what exactly? so that’s your answer?

[Ultramaroon]

Don't feed the racist troll.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by TommyW

twisting what exactly? so that’s your answer?

No. You're very vocal about anti-vaxxing. And then you throw in some political mumbo jumbo about immigrates causing COVID issues. That's not a subject that should be covered here. That's an issue the CDC has discussed and is an issue of the border patrol.