TOYOTA GAZOO Racing Presents World Debut of the New JDM GR 86 (Second Gen 86)!

[Deslock]

Front looks cleaner than BRZ's.

Happy with my MX-5, but if I needed more than two seats again, I'd get an 86.

[RToyo86]

The article says it has 235hp and weighs 2799 curb.

Compared to 228hp on the BRZ.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Ash_89

I'm not sure if I can convey this properly but, the front end of the GR86 has a certain balance that makes the car look right to me.

Agreed. I suspect that, like the 1st gen, Toyota decided what it would look like and then Subaru designed their bumper/headlights/fendervents after the fact.

Originally Posted by RToyo86

The article says it has 235hp and weighs 2799 curb.

Compared to 228hp on the BRZ.

235 PS, not HP. It's 173kW/235PS/232HP

Maybe Subaru didn't have final numbers, maybe it was rounded differently, who knows.
Numbers are the same for both, 173kW:

[WC-BRZ]

I thought the cr for the new 2.4 was 13.5:1...however, the GR86 spec sheet says 12.5:1

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/04/al...olheads-needs/

[Summerwolf]

Mehhhhh. That really wasn't worth the delayed announcement IMO.

[Tcoat]

Well that is a lot of hype for an announcement that is about as anticlimactic as you can get.
Slightly different lights and interior trim and a different bumper. So pretty much the differences between the 86 and the BRZ that have always existed.

I still strongly dislike the side vents and running boards. There is no way the whole model line should be branded as GR since that is pure marketing bullshit.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by RetroRacer

So glad i didn’t buy the local Hakone edition 86 manual with 950 miles for sale for $31k locally. Color is nice, but even the Performance pack BRZ was a better buy for the same $. Again I’m amazed how many people pay more for a “color” over a better driving car. Most people who own a Hakone don’t “track” their car, that’s the difference, they just want a car that looks good, but don’t use the drivers car for what it’s intended for.
The new car will outperform the old one on every front.
Definitely prefer the Toyota styling to the BRZ. But will change mine immensely for an upcoming sema show. A bigger 2.4 motor with improved power band and better chassis that’s 50% more rigid to build upon, Well done Toyota/Subaru!
Will sit nicely in my garage next to my 2007 STI Crawford built, and 91 NSX. Sold my 2012 SS/RS sema Camaro recently but I prefer lightweight over HP. Look forward to building a phenomenal new GR86.

What exactly was it "intended for"?
As many Hakone's will get tracked as any other version.
The majority of the PP cars will never ever see a track.

Pretentious "enthusiast" is pretentious.

[JusTheG]

Good Morning/Evening to wherever y'all are. WHEW, I'm glad to see the GR86 in full form. Product delays, especially in the Automotive market, are nothing to scoff at now so I'm glad Toyota made sure to plan a good release despite the rumors.

There's still the Pre-Production builds that are probably in the final series of Extensive Testing but there's reassurance with the Press Release that Production will start "soon" with Toyota's approval.

On a lighter side, maybe Toyota and Subaru are trying show that Red and Blue cars can coexist in a world full of Pearl White and Metallic Gray. I'll need some time to process the differences between each car but I do believe the GR86 has a better looking front bumper. But my desire for World Rally Blue is possibly stronger.

[Transport3r]

Curious to see what the actual changes are that Toyota made to make it ‘sharper’ and ‘more engaging’.

Bet you a dollar it’s harder rear springs. Again.

[Transport3r]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

What exactly was it "intended for"?
As many Hakone's will get tracked as any other version.
The majority of the PP cars will never ever see a track.

Pretentious "enthusiast" is pretentious.

Yea this comes off as undeserved self-aggrandizement rooted in insecurity. Nobody likes this guy.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Transport3r

Curious to see what the actual changes are that Toyota made to make it ‘sharper’ and ‘more engaging’.

Bet you a dollar it’s harder rear springs. Again.

That could be a lot of fun in combination with the more granular 5-level switch for TC that will be standard equipment. Ideally you should be able to fine-tune the tail-out behavior, giving yourself a margin of safety that more closely meets situational requirements and personal preferences.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Quentin

So all those rumors, that never really made sense in the first place, about Toyota pulling the andon at the 11th hr to further differentiate from the BRZ turned out to not be true. Shocking. /s


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I'd say that is still up in the air, if something like that did happen they are obviously not going to talk about it in the rollout, and they do say that the GR will be tuned for a sharper driving experience. I'm not seeing any official production or sale date announcements yet.

[SUB-FT86]

GR86>>>BRZ

[Sport-Tech]

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