All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[AnalogMan]

The more pics I see of it in WRB, the more it's growing on me...

[scuzzy]

Hey ZDan, My Brembo pads started squealing after only 4,000 miles (street -- daily driver). I came out of an 05 wrx completely stock which I drove for 13 years and those basic brakes seemed to work better (and the pads lasted longer) that the bigger STi brembos on this car.

[Lantanafrs2]

Part of me wishes they would've done a real refresh of the last gen and kept the original styling intact.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by scuzzy

Hey ZDan, My Brembo pads started squealing after only 4,000 miles (street -- daily driver). I came out of an 05 wrx completely stock which I drove for 13 years and those basic brakes seemed to work better (and the pads lasted longer) that the bigger STi brembos on this car.

Huh, '18 must have gone to different pad compound, mine have never squealed at all, and I'm coming up on 50k miles on the car. They do make a slight grinding noise but not excessive.

But anyway, easy enough to get different pads if you don't like stock ones. WAY cheaper to do that than to forego the PP and buy a whole aftermarket big brake kit front and rear!

[The Red One]

Originally Posted by scuzzy

My Brembo pads started squealing after only 4,000 miles (street -- daily driver).

I have a 19 PP, I find they squeal a lot when driving around town
with lots of stop & Go with very slight pressure but thats the
untold feature with them. Generally they dont squeal much.
Besides them being perfectly color matched to a Pure Red the
extra sound gets the neighbours kid off my driveway in a hurry
when I come home.
If it bugs you a lot check out youtube for easy fixes for Big brakes
before you go looking for different pads.

[RotARy15]

On my 2017, the PP is such a value that I just straight up won't buy one without it. They look great, they perform great, and brake squeal just means they are working.


I'm also concerned about the replace-ability of that headunit and whether doing so would remove the engine.mp3 bs.

[scuzzy]

Thanks for the heads up on the break noise!

I will happily admit the Brembos look great on the car! As a daily driver it is probably more break than I need so it's not a deal breaker when considering the next gen.

[ZDan]

Everybody, 2013-2016: FT86 is great, but it could use more power!
Subaru, 2017: How about +5hp and big Brembo brakes!
Subaru, 2021: OK, here's another 23hp, but no more big brakes...

I got the PP primarily for easy pad swaps at the track. I *hate* pad swaps with sliding calipers... But honestly the car's looks are hugely improved with the giant rotors and big red calipers! Kinda hard for me to look at the standard brakes on the '22...

[RToyo86]

There is still the chance they will still offer a performance pack with the optional brembos. It would be unusual to offer it on outgoing models then ditch it for the next gen.

[JesseG]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Everybody, 2013-2016: FT86 is great, but it could use more power!
Subaru, 2017: How about +5hp and big Brembo brakes!
Subaru, 2021: OK, here's another 23hp, but no more big brakes...

I got the PP primarily for easy pad swaps at the track. I *hate* pad swaps with sliding calipers... But honestly the car's looks are hugely improved with the giant rotors and big red calipers! Kinda hard for me to look at the standard brakes on the '22...

I’m sure Subaru will offer a Performance Pack on the 2nd gen BRZ, and Toyota will probably do the same. I really hope so anyway, because I want it.


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[Ash_89]

Stupid question, but if the Power Pack wasn't on offer for the first gen wouldn't an upgrade to the pads and discs be fine for street use?

Where the stock brakes lacking for track use and fine for the street, I guess is what I'm asking?

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by Ash_89

Stupid question, but if the Power Pack wasn't on offer for the first gen wouldn't an upgrade to the pads and discs be fine for street use?

Where the stock brakes lacking for track use and fine for the street, I guess is what I'm asking?

Standard brakes worked fine for the street.


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[wbradley]

Stock calipers with upgraded pads (Project Mu 800+) and DOT4 fluid worked good for street and track.

Cannot vouch for long sessions though.

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Ash_89

Stupid question, but if the Power Pack wasn't on offer for the first gen wouldn't an upgrade to the pads and discs be fine for street use?

Where the stock brakes lacking for track use and fine for the street, I guess is what I'm asking?

*Performance Package...

Stock brakes are not an issue at all on the street, and fine at the track for shorter sessions with appropriate pads and fluid as @wbradley sez ^^^ Friend/competitor in a '13 has complained about keeping them cool for longer sessions though, and I'm sure his pad wear rate is greater vs. the big Brembos. Also feel is better with the fixed calipers and larger-diameter rotors.

I thought it was a bit hilarious at the time for them to offer bigger brakes on a car that didn't really *need* them. For the 3-lap time-trials I compete in, I don't think they give an advantage but they are penalized 40 lb. vs. non-Brembo FT86s. I still went with them for ease of pad swaps. And because they look so cool... Hoping to see this option on the '22+.