Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by spike021

Just don't do two middle names....

No middle name is almost as difficult in the same forms.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by spike021

Just don't do two middle names.

Not that I dislike mine or wish my parents hadn't done it. But two names makes legal forms and other stuff so difficult to fill out...

Like most of my important registrations for credit card, flight info, etc. only has my first middle name, or I have to put the two initials, but then those don't match my passport, etc.

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

No middle name is almost as difficult in the same forms.

Try no middle name & 2 letter first name. Some site doesn’t allow 2 letter name (most require 3 letters).

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by spike021

Just don't do two middle names.

Not that I dislike mine or wish my parents hadn't done it. But two names makes legal forms and other stuff so difficult to fill out...

Like most of my important registrations for credit card, flight info, etc. only has my first middle name, or I have to put the two initials, but then those don't match my passport, etc.

My wife was born into a catholic family. Her list of middle names rivals ichi's list of possible ones.
When it was time to name her they gave a first name and then said "OK so she has to have the name of both grandmothers, the family patron saint, the godmother, the doctor's wife, the lady at the gift shop from the hospital, the paperboy's mother, that woman that nodded to me on the bus once, my cat from 20 years ago and some random middle name all of her own"

She ultimately just picked one for official purposes.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Try no middle name & 2 letter first name. Some site doesn’t allow 2 letter name (most require 3 letters).

Not to mention that the two letter name actually has a meaning in English!

[ScoobsMcGee]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Haha def won’t choose baby name by hooligans... BUT let’s face it, names are influenced by person who had that name. Example, name Fiona I like, but my wife doesn’t like it cuz name Fiona reminds her of movie Shrek. Another one is Aurora. It reminds her of shooting happened (in CO?) Both are Princess names & meanings are very wonderful... but in the end, experiences of that name influenced the person good way or bad way. So I’ll gladly take hooligans opinions on those name plus other names.

Rin is Japanese unisex name & I was thinking of using that name as one of candidates for the middle name. Middle gonna be hard. I want be able to read it both Japanese AND Chinese. Prefer to have it in 1 writing like me & my wife. Good news is, 9 out 10 Japanese writing can be read in Chinese.

To add, funny part is, 2 of the name my wife picked origin are from flowers (Lily & Rin), even though she doesn’t like/care for flowers. Lol

Definitely relatable. When I was going through the same thing, we decided on the name Alexander. We then spent the next several months explaining to many of our friends the we didn't name the kid after a Final Fantasy summon.

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Same here. Most of the people I worked would have a background in Physics, Chemistry, Economics, Biology etc. and at some point of their career changed to work in the IT world. I don't believe that all these people were not intelligent and they had also a high-level education. Nevertheless, they missed a formal education and a knowledge of basic principles. In many cases this lack of knowledge was evident.

Think what would happen if you would go for a surgery and the person who would do it wasn't a doctor, but let's say a person with a biology background or a chemistry background. Would you accept to make the surgery no matter how intelligent he was? Things in IT were somehow screwed up in the past. Maybe there were too many positions and not enough people, but at some point of time this has to be changed. Especially in highly critical applications ...

I can understand the benefits of a education in a particular field, but can never agree that one is absolutely required to understand basic principles. I've worked with people that hold topical master's degrees who are completely clueless. Alternatively, some of the most skilled people I've worked with have no formal education.

Ultimately I believe we're discussing education versus experience. I believe that adequate experience can compensate for formal education. When talking entry level positions where experience is not present, education is much more important.

As for the whole surgery versus IT thing, comparing the two is false equivalency at best. Not to mention it would be impossible due to licensing requirements in many countries. A more accurate comparison would be if I would let someone with a documented history of expertise diagnose an engine problem if he didn't have a degree, and the answer is yes.

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Just remember, with names, it will be shortened to one syllable. Elise will become El, Sydney will become Syd, Vanessa will become Van or just V, Morgan will become Morg, etc..

Ho.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

My wife was born into a catholic family. Her list of middle names rivals ichi's list of possible ones.
When it was time to name her they gave a first name and then said "OK so she has to have the name of both grandmothers, the family patron saint, the godmother, the doctor's wife, the lady at the gift shop from the hospital, the paperboy's mother, that woman that nodded to me on the bus once, my cat from 20 years ago and some random middle name all of her own"

She ultimately just picked one for official purposes.

So was I, and I only ever had one legal first name.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

My wife was born into a catholic family. Her list of middle names rivals ichi's list of possible ones.
When it was time to name her they gave a first name and then said "OK so she has to have the name of both grandmothers, the family patron saint, the godmother, the doctor's wife, the lady at the gift shop from the hospital, the paperboy's mother, that woman that nodded to me on the bus once, my cat from 20 years ago and some random middle name all of her own"

She ultimately just picked one for official purposes.

Yeah, sort of similar story here except names from Jewish old testament stories.

It's not that I don't like the purpose of it, but the execution of it sucks since mainstream/typical systems aren't built for it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Spuds

So was I, and I only ever had one legal first name.

So does she. First name. The rest of her names look like the credits to a movies scrolling past.
Like I said she just picked one of them and ran with it for the middle.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Try no middle name & 2 letter first name. Some site doesn’t allow 2 letter name (most require 3 letters).

As someone who works on systems that take in strings of characters, it really bothers me that use cases like 2 letter names aren't accepted. Just because you (the developer or product manager) haven't seen it doesn't mean it shouldn't be an acceptable input.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by spike021

As someone who works on systems that take in strings of characters, it really bothers me that use cases like 2 letter names aren't accepted. Just because you (the developer or product manager) haven't seen it doesn't mean it shouldn't be an acceptable input.

Exactly... so those time, I use space or “!”. Best one is, credit card company thought it was an initial, so they put periods.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

So does she. First name. The rest of her names look like the credits to a movies scrolling past.
Like I said she just picked one of them and ran with it for the middle.

Sorry only one legal middle name.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by spike021

As someone who works on systems that take in strings of characters, it really bothers me that use cases like 2 letter names aren't accepted. Just because you (the developer or product manager) haven't seen it doesn't mean it shouldn't be an acceptable input.

Reminds me of the time one of my payroll loads at work failed because we got a new doctor with the most ridiculously long last name. I had all the tables set at 40 characters max for last name. Took me a couple days to change all the tables and ssis packages.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Reminds me of the time one of my payroll loads at work failed because we got a new doctor with the most ridiculously long last name. I had all the tables set at 40 characters max for last name. Took me a couple days to change all the tables and ssis packages.

One of my buddies has a really long last name, also has 6 consonants in a row in the middle. I don't think it is possible to spell by sounding it out.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

One of my buddies has a really long last name, also has 6 consonants in a row in the middle. I don't think it is possible to spell by sounding it out.

Look it this way, adding my first & last name, I can make a phone number. That even excluding area code! lol