Gun Showcase Thread (No Politics or Philosophical Discussions)

[BoxRZ_86]

CZ P10F

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by BoxRZ_86

CZ P10F

Looks to me like a toy gun - maybe it's just the paint job - sorry, I'll go away -

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Looks to me like a toy gun - maybe it's just the paint job - sorry, I'll go away -

There's no paint there. Standard FDE available straight from CZ.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

There's no paint there. Standard FDE available straight from CZ.

I understand. I should have put "paint job" in quotes -

[NWFRS]

Originally Posted by BoxRZ_86

CZ P10F

Nice! How do you like the trigger?

[BoxRZ_86]

Originally Posted by NWFRS

Nice! How do you like the trigger?

I like it. Very crisp feeling. one of the reasons I purchased it.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by BoxRZ_86

I like it. Very crisp feeling. one of the reasons I purchased it.

Although I'm not a CZ fan, I've heard a lot of good things about their triggers and overall quality. It's just their selection doesn't appeal to me.

[NWFRS]

Originally Posted by weederr33

Although I'm not a CZ fan, I've heard a lot of good things about their triggers and overall quality. It's just their selection doesn't appeal to me.

I get it. I feel like there’s no shortage of great companies with extensive lineups, but most seem to miss my idea of “perfect” by a very slim margin. I can always find something to nit-pick even about my favorites. But I think CZ has really come a long way with polymer in the last decade, even stacking up favorably against more popular European companies like Steyr, Glock, and H&K.

Just have to find the models that fit your own hand properly and have triggers that you can live with. One of my buddies picked up an H&K VP9 last year, widely considered one of the best striker-guns on the market. The grip can be tailored not just with multiple back-straps, but also various side-panels. Anyway, he has small hands, so it might as well have been a Nambu in my hand, and I shot very poorly with it.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by NWFRS

I get it. I feel like there’s no shortage of great companies with extensive lineups, but most seem to miss my idea of “perfect” by a very slim margin. I can always find something to nit-pick even about my favorites. But I think CZ has really come a long way with polymer in the last decade, even stacking up favorably against more popular European companies like Steyr, Glock, and H&K.

Just have to find the models that fit your own hand properly and have triggers that you can live with. One of my buddies picked up an H&K VP9 last year, widely considered one of the best striker-guns on the market. The grip can be tailored not just with multiple back-straps, but also various side-panels. Anyway, he has small hands, so it might as well have been a Nambu in my hand, and I shot very poorly with it.

I don't get the craze about the VP9, and I'm an HK fanboi. It just doesn't do it for me. Then again, I'm a DA/SA kind of guy. Or well better yet, HK's LEM trigger. Striker fired crisp with the added safety of thumbing the hammer.

[NWFRS]

Originally Posted by weederr33

I don't get the craze about the VP9, and I'm an HK fanboi. It just doesn't do it for me. Then again, I'm a DA/SA kind of guy. Or well better yet, HK's LEM trigger. Striker fired crisp with the added safety of thumbing the hammer.

Yeah it wasn’t my cup of tea either, but the trigger seemed alright for a striker-gun. We both shot a little better with my P-07, but that’s that DA/SA difference that you were talking about. They’re apples and oranges to begin with, and mine has had work done. The thing that bothered me most was how top-heavy it felt, but I’m not sure if it really was, or a slightly higher bore-axis, or the fact that he had his grip configured for smaller hands. I’m not a great shot anyway, so although I feel the differences, I don’t always know what’s going on.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by NWFRS

Yeah it wasn’t my cup of tea either, but the trigger seemed alright for a striker-gun. We both shot a little better with my P-07, but that’s that DA/SA difference that you were talking about. They’re apples and oranges to begin with, and mine has had work done. The thing that bothered me most was how top-heavy it felt, but I’m not sure if it really was, or a slightly higher bore-axis, or the fact that he had his grip configured for smaller hands. I’m not a great shot anyway, so although I feel the differences, I don’t always know what’s going on.

The VP9 and all other HK's have a pretty high bore axis. My HK45CT is stupid high. I think it's at least 1 1/2 in from the web of my hand to the raised sights. It's pretty insane. I forgive it, because it's so damn smooth. Don't see why they can't make something with a low axis like the old P7 was. But then again, I'm sure it comes down to cost, and overall design image. Like cars, they all have a similar style. People are also spoiled with lose bore axis like Glocks and then get all hung up on bore axis this and that till I hate saying bore axis Still, I love all sorts of guns no matter what because if they were all the same, where would the fun be right?

[NWFRS]

Originally Posted by weederr33

The VP9 and all other HK's have a pretty high bore axis. My HK45CT is stupid high. I think it's at least 1 1/2 in from the web of my hand to the raised sights. It's pretty insane. I forgive it, because it's so damn smooth. Don't see why they can't make something with a low axis like the old P7 was. But then again, I'm sure it comes down to cost, and overall design image. Like cars, they all have a similar style. People are also spoiled with lose bore axis like Glocks and then get all hung up on bore axis this and that till I hate saying bore axis Still, I love all sorts of guns no matter what because if they were all the same, where would the fun be right?

That’s true!

Those P7 are pretty neat. I didn’t appreciate them back when we were getting all those imported police refurbs. I think they were around $500 back when I was doing weekends at a local store. I thought they felt super clunky. But even the thrashed ones are in the $1500 range now. Kinda wish I’d grabbed one, although I’d probably have already sold it if I had.

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by humfrz

I understand. I should have put "paint job" in quotes -

Here's a paint job. Old pic, but before the paint started wearing in.

[NWFRS]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Here's a paint job. Old pic, but before the paint started wearing in.

Nice colors. Is that an ALG ACT? How do you like it?