Any PC Gamers Around?

[x808drifter]

Best romance option imo

[Captain Snooze]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

Best romance option imo

Yeah, agreed although I thought the sex scene in the tank was gratuitous in the same way I think the sex scenes in a lot of movies are gratuitous. I much preferred it was inferred rather than obvious.

[weederr33]

I took the plunge and bought CP2077. Now just gotta way 10 hrs while it downloads

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

I have been using my Steelkeys 6g for....mmmm...10 years? Maybe more, maybe less. They certainly aren't making this model any more. I dread the time when I have to buy a new keyboard. There is no way of making an informed decision give the 4.7 squillion different keyboards out there..

Probably the best keyboards come from here. https://www.pckeyboard.com/

This is the same factory and parts that the original IBM "M" keyboard was made. They have continued the tradition of making them the same way since IBM sold it to LexMark and the ultimately it went independent. I'm thinking about ordering one for work.

The BlackWidow is better for gaming, and it has better "nerdy" features like lighting, etc, but for straight typing there's nothing better than an "M" keyboard.

[soundman98]

gimicky. never got the fixation with large-travel mechanical switches.

i've always preferred low profile scissor-action keys. much quicker response time with less movement. i don't need the clack sound, i'm playing a game not writing a novel.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by soundman98

gimicky. never got the fixation with large-travel mechanical switches.

i've always preferred low profile scissor-action keys. much quicker response time with less movement. i don't need the clack sound, i'm playing a game not writing a novel.

The immediate feedback makes it unambiguous as to whether you pressed the switch or not which I find helpful if playing a game requiring rapid precise input (or typing). Also, if you don't know exactly where the switch activates you are always bottoming out your keys and applying more force than you really need to, resulting in increased fatigue.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by soundman98

gimicky. never got the fixation with large-travel mechanical switches.

i've always preferred low profile scissor-action keys. much quicker response time with less movement. i don't need the clack sound, i'm playing a game not writing a novel.

The Blackwidow makes about as much noise as any keyboard, it doesn't Clack. It does have a longer, and more positive, keystroke than a scissor-action key though.

The IBM-M style keyboard is much better if you are a touch typist and doing office work, but I wouldn't necessarily want it for gaming, although I prefer it over a "mushy" keyboard. I think its just a matter of what you "grew up" with. All through high school, college and my early computer years everything I used had switch keys in it, or the feel of an M key.

[DarkPira7e]

All this talk about keyboards. My favorite style keyboard is membrane; hear me out.

I'm a hardcore dedicated hunt and peck typist. I type at about 115+WPM using only my index fingers for normal keys, thumbs hit the spacebar and pinky / ring finger hit auxiliary modifier keys like shift or control.

Bottoming out the key and slamming them so I know they're down is what makes me want to type, I love it. I think it also has to do with having played piano for a while. I've tried touch typing / home row, can't stand it. I've found that the best keyboard for my typing style is the Logitech G15.

With those keyboards long gone ( I had a couple, space bar and a few other keys stopped functioning) I have fallen to the Razer Cynosa. It works well enough, just has terrible media controls and the shift key sticks frequently. This keyboard is the closest I've gotten to something livable for my typing style. Are there any other dedicated hunt and peck typists?

Also worth noting; I've been typing like this since high school and do a lot of typing; I have never experienced any sort of typing fatigue or wrist trouble.

[x808drifter]

^
Same, I bottom out my keys most of the time.
Also don't get the fatigue comment. Granted I don't type books for a living.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

^
Same, I bottom out my keys most of the time.
Also don't get the fatigue comment. Granted I don't type books for a living.

On most modern keyboards (read non-mechanical membrane types) you have to bottom out, it isn't really an option to not as there is no "float". With a mechanical switch, bottoming out isn't necessary (although you can do it). It takes some getting used to if you haven't done it before but you don't get the jarring "bump" at the end of the keystroke.

Think of it as bottoming out your suspension on every dip in the road. That's basically what you are doing to your fingers.

[x808drifter]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

On most modern keyboards (read non-mechanical membrane types) you have to bottom out, it isn't really an option to not as there is no "float". With a mechanical switch, bottoming out isn't necessary (although you can do it). It takes some getting used to if you haven't done it before but you don't get the jarring "bump" at the end of the keystroke.

Think of it as bottoming out your suspension on every dip in the road. That's basically what you are doing to your fingers.

I understand the physical aspect of doing it, I don't suffer any type of fatigue/soreness/stiffness from it.

I also don't find any "jarring" bump.
I have a Corsair K68.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

I understand the physical aspect of doing it, I don't suffer any type of fatigue/soreness/stiffness from it.

I also don't find any "jarring" bump.
I have a Corsair K68.

The K68 is a mechanical keyboard (Cherry MX switches if my memory serves me correctly) so you may be benefiting from it without realizing it. They register well before bottoming out, they just don't have the audible click.

This is basically the same switch that are in my BlackWidow, but the Razer Green switches have an audible click.

Also, by jarring, I'm talking relative pressure on your fingers and joints that likely isn't noticeable in the short term. I can tell the difference over longer sessions, but it is more obvious when you are typing vs gaming.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

The K68 is a mechanical keyboard (Cherry MX switches if my memory serves me correctly) so you may be benefiting from it without realizing it. They register well before bottoming out, they just don't have the audible click.

This is basically the same switch that are in my BlackWidow, but the Razer Green switches have an audible click.

Also, by jarring, I'm talking relative pressure on your fingers and joints that likely isn't noticeable in the short term. I can tell the difference over longer sessions, but it is more obvious when you are typing vs gaming.

Everything above is correct. I also have a keyboard with cherry reds. I actually wish there was some more tactile feedback. The laser switches in my wife's Huntsman are fantastic, so I kind of want it, but they are pretty loud...

Also link to the k68 product page:
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Catego.../CH-9102020-NA

[x808drifter]

To clarify.
The K68 i have is my current keyboard. This is the first mechanical keyboard I ever owned. I am bottoming the keys out.
I used to have a Razer membrane keyboard (don't remember model)
All our work keyboards are membrane.

Years of using crappy keyboards that needed firm keystrokes has made me type like this.
Also is most likely what I don't get fatigue or really notice or care about bottoming out.