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Old 12-20-2020, 12:29 AM   #2325
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Not helpful, a little relevant but not really. Maybe.

I haven't used case fans in my last 2 computers. I have a largish cpu cooler with 140mm fan, the gpu looks after itself and the side panel remains off at all times. The cpu fan blows out the back where I have cut the grill/mesh from the case.


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If things get a little warm during summer I have a house fan blowing into the case.
I regularly de-dust, it's nice and quiet. Works for me.
Well, without a case side I don't imagine you are restricting flow a whole bunch. I'm sure it works fine if you don't have to worry about anything getting in there.
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Out of curiosity, would it make a difference in terms of heat management if the front fans were being used to bring air in, while the rear was evacuating it? I.e. reversing the layout I have?
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Out of curiosity, would it make a difference in terms of heat management if the front fans were being used to bring air in, while the rear was evacuating it? I.e. reversing the layout I have?
Your front fans are bringing air in to the case in the last pictures you sent.
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Not helpful, a little relevant but not really. Maybe.

I haven't used case fans in my last 2 computers. I have a largish cpu cooler with 140mm fan, the gpu looks after itself and the side panel remains off at all times. The cpu fan blows out the back where I have cut the grill/mesh from the case.


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If things get a little warm during summer I have a house fan blowing into the case.
I regularly de-dust, it's nice and quiet. Works for me.
that was partly what my comment was about the style of side panel in his case selection. without the side panel, i completely agree!
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this weekend's project was getting 9 network cables ran to the constant devices(network a/v receivers, tv's, computers) to try to eliminate oddball wifi connection issues.

my tv and receiver will both randomly decide to not work, despite the computers and phones on the same wifi saying everything is fine...


and a picture of my wonderful rack at phase 1:
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Your front fans are bringing air in to the case in the last pictures you sent.
thanks! btw, how do I make them sound more like UEL headers?
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this weekend's project was getting 9 network cables ran to the constant devices(network a/v receivers, tv's, computers) to try to eliminate oddball wifi connection issues.

my tv and receiver will both randomly decide to not work, despite the computers and phones on the same wifi saying everything is fine...


and a picture of my wonderful rack at phase 1:



Is that a sewer line above the electronics.........?????


Would hate to be the guy who had to replace that if the line leaks.
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it's all gfi protected!

if it leaks, it means something big shifted, and i'll have much bigger issues than a few pieces of electronics!
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it's all gfi protected!

if it leaks, it means something big shifted, and i'll have much bigger issues than a few pieces of electronics!
Yeah, you might need a doctor to examine your bowels...

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Old 12-21-2020, 12:37 PM   #2334
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Im trying to make the switch to PC, there's a guy at my workplace that builds computers and sells them. I was wondering if there are good starter builds. This is a copy and paste from his Local Forum post.:


Fast Gaming PC + Workstation - $619

- CPU: Quad-Core Intel E3-1240 v3
up to 3.8 GHz (i7 equivalent)
- RAM: 16GB
(4x4GB)
- GPU: GTX 1660 6GB

- SSD: 1TB
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- Tower: HP Z230 Workstation


Fast RGB Gaming PC - $769

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- SSD: 512 GB
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All-White Midrange Gaming PC - $739

- CPU: Quad-Core Intel i3-8100
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what will you be using it for? what are you switching from?

sure are some oddball choices in processors though.
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what will you be using it for? what are you switching from?

sure are some oddball choices in processors though.

Going to switch from PS4 to PC, so mostly gaming.


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like i had said earlier, the building part is the easiest part really-- if you've done any mods to your car where you had to do research to make sure 'x' works with 'y', this is identical to that. everything fits a standard, everything has it's place, and there's very few ways to mess it up. very rarely anything needs to be forced, so if force is needed, back off and re-evaluate if that part is supposed to go there. usually it doesn't.

the software part is really the most time consuming part of the whole thing.

i would stick with the normal i7/i9 stuff. i don't exactly understand his reasoning to get into the xeon series of processors-- they're a business-class processor:

https://www.gamingscan.com/intel-xeo...ming-worth-it/

the big focus of any gaming rig is going to be to get the absolute best graphics card speed, and most graphics memory you can justify. it's also important to have enough RAM to get the job done. 16gb is the minimum i would go with anymore, i do find it curious that he doesn't offer more out of the gate in any of those packages.

rgb is nice flair if you're into that sort of thing, but it's like underglow on a car. just adds expense to something that really does nothing.

in terms of hard drives, absolutely get an ssd, an m.2 if possible for a boot drive, with a 1TB minimum storage drive for game files. i personally stay away from any ssd over 500gb. hard drives are like house space. the more you have, the easier it is to fill. i prefer to keep my ssd's intentionally small because the first focus of installing an ssd is to make the OS boot and respond fast, so i prefer to keep them under 500gb so i'm not inclined to even accidentally install game files on them.

i've got no experience with evga motherboards, but the experiences with gigabyte motherboards have been less than stellar over the years. evga and zotac seem to be similar to me, where their motherboards seem to play 2nd fiddle to their graphics card side of things.

i generally stick with asus or msi for motherboards.. maybe more of a personal preference though.

in terms of the power supply, stick with a name brand--corsair, evga, cooler master, thermaltake, antec, and rosewill are the only one's i really consider. the other brands sometimes have issues. and i always get the modular versions--it cuts down significantly on unused cable bundles in the build.
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Agree with all that ^

It seems like you were being steered towards a large scale business-oriented build with a budget graphics card rather than a gaming pc.

What kinds of games would you like to play? That affects some priorities in the build imo.

I typically start with a CPU architecture, then find a (typically MSI) motherboard that supports it with features I want. Then the RAM (because the type needs to be supported by CPU/mobo). Pick out some storage and a graphics card (most everything works together here). Then a power supply with enough throughout to run the whole thing (and a bit extra because a bit of overhead is good) and a case that it all fits in. Finally buy yourself a copy of Windows and make software work. Which can be finicky if you've never installed an OS from scratch.
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