Smaller next-gen Mazda MX-5....YES

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by Mouse

I know you didn't call it gay but we all know the preconceived notions that go along with that car....And the movie "Corky Romano" didn't help it either.

Ah, well I respect the Miata and I'm not sure what nomenclature is used for the old Miatas but I like those the most, especially the blue one that was shown in another thread. I would just simply take an S over one, that is all.

[ERA]

[S2KtoFT86]

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Mouse

What I know is that a lot of people(that know about cars)respect the miata and the ones that call it gay just don't understand it(miata).

The miata revived the TRUE sports car segment alone. Without the miata a lot of cars probably would not have been conceived....Including the s2000.

Really, I thought S2k was the processor of S500, S600, & S800. So it didn't really matter if mx-5 was there or not, S2k would of been convertible... so I thought.

Anyways, it'll be interesting to see. I like mx-5, so I'll be excited to see how next gen gonna come up to be.

[White Comet]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Really, I thought S2k was the processor of S500, S600, & S800. So it didn't really matter if mx-5 was there or not, S2k would of been convertible... so I thought.

Anyways, it'll be interesting to see. I like mx-5, so I'll be excited to see how next gen gonna come up to be.

No, mouse is right. He's saying that the mx-5 was the progenitor for the all modern roadster, and he would be right. Referencing the old Honda convertibles that haven't been in production for 30 odd years as somehow being responsible for the development of the S2000 is disingenuous. They didn't trigger the modern day roadster class, the miata did.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by White Comet

No, mouse is right. He's saying that the mx-5 was the progenitor for the all modern roadster, and he would be right. Referencing the old Honda convertibles that haven't been in production for 30 odd years as somehow being responsible for the development of the S2000 is disingenuous. They didn't trigger the modern day roadster class, the miata did.

Sorry, I'm not disrespecting mx-5 or anything, but I'm not convinced.

[Mouse]

Thanks white comet.

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Sorry, I'm not disrespecting mx-5 or anything, but I'm not convinced.

And you shouldn't be. The S600 was released in '64, many many years before the Miata was. The S600 was a RWD convertible with a DOHC 4 cylinder. Sound familiar? To say that the Miata prompted the S2000 is completely ludicrous. The S2000 was prompted because of the S800, and even the S500 before it. The S2000 is a true successor to the S500, S600, and S800.

The Miata might have contributed to the modern day roadster coming back but to say the S2000 is here because of the Miata is just downright stupid. The S series has been around for 45 years. I don't quite think the Miata has been around that long.

[Mouse]

Do you really think that Honda would have even considered making the S2000 if the they didn't see the success Mazda was having with the miata. Really think about it, Honda was late to the party.

The miata takes after the Lotus Elan of the early 60's .

[S2KtoFT86]

Originally Posted by Mouse

Do you really think that Honda would have even considered making the S2000 if the they didn't see the success Mazda was having with the miata. Really think about it, Honda was late to the party.

The miata takes after the Lotus Elan of the early 60's .

Maybe not but call it what it is. The Miata might have started the modern roadster but again, the S2000 takes after the S series that was started in the 60s as well. So, in a sense, Honda had it going long before Mazda did, even if the Miata "took" after the Elan.

[OldSkoolToys]

Originally Posted by Mouse

The miata revived the TRUE sports car segment alone. Without the miata a lot of cars probably would not have been conceived....Including the s2000.

The definition of TRUE sports car is opinionated at best anyways.

My definition of a true sports car is light weight, RWD, sporty engine, hardtop coupe.

To others its huge ass engine with enough power to make it stand up.

And to others its a car with neon lights sitting on bags with a $7000 sound system.

Edit: And the miata might've revived the roadster segment, but at its initial release, cars like the Supra, 300ZX, RX-7, 240sx, and MR-2 were still being produced.

[Mouse]

I agree with you OldSkoolToys

[Matador]

The S2000 is far and away from being in the same class as the miata, so I highly doubt it influenced it's creation.

The Miata is awesome, but it's existence and the existence of most modern small roadsters, is due to British cars, such as the MG roadster etc.

[sonicwrx]

Miatas are badass little cars, I just hope they make the exterior more "aggressive".