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Old 12-10-2020, 06:07 PM   #1149
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Not if I was buying a Honda sports car, but in my Toyota sports car, not so much.

Sad thing is that over the evolution of car design, there's less and less individuality and eventually, say in 50 years, the non-enthusiast is not going to be able to tell one car manufacturer from another, IMO.
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Old 12-10-2020, 07:55 PM   #1150
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So much Honda Civic in this photo. I think its the "< >" taillights.
Man I really want to like the car. I really want it to grow on me. It doesn’t, it hasn’t. Don’t think it will.

The design looks dated already to me as well.
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:08 PM   #1151
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And is that a bad thing? I've owned both Accord & Civic coupes.
No it’s not bad at all. For the Hondas. But in my opinion that tail light design is just quite plain and generic. Seems like there are so many similar ones on other cars. Not eye catching, not individual.
I just wish they’d taken the care to give the car a more unique look, that was perhaps an evolution of the first gen design. The first gen was a pretty unique look at the time, and it was quite well received.
That’s how you build an identity for a car, and a following, IMO. Look at Porsche. No doubt from one generation to the next that you’re looking at a Porsche 911, Cayman, or Boxster. The only angle where the 2022 recalls the first gen car is the greenhouse side view from what I can see.
I think that was a missed opportunity by the design staff.
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:11 PM   #1152
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to balance all the dislikes and folks who need glasses to properly see proportion and not plain shapes...

it looks great! love the hips like before, really dig the sleek and modern tailights, love that they black out the cover, the rear window being a bit wider makes it look more substantial, diffuser looks awesome and I really like the license plate location...can't wait to see it some toyota-only colors ^^

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The first gen was a pretty unique look at the time, and it was quite well received.
where were yall when the twins first came out?? there were plenty of folks that thought (and still think) the twins looked like total shit, either it looks like a cheap car or they cried that it didn't look like the concepts that came before it. Yall should go back to the threads from 2010-2012 and read through the comments..plenty of disgust..
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:23 PM   #1153
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Whether or not the styling is groundbreaking or even appealing to some, the miracle is that they even introduced a new rear wheel drive, 2 door sportscar at all. An electric crossover would be easier and have a waiting list.
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:35 PM   #1154
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Tails are fine IMO. If they look a bit like NSX, or Civic, or whatever taillights it doesn't bother me at all, as long as they look good in this context, IMO they do.

Original Ford GT40 had Corvair taillights!
Maserati Khamsin tails are S30 Datsun Z.
Lamborghini Diablo had Z32 300ZX headlights,
Countach had tails from some cheapo car...
McLaren F1 had tails from a Bova Futura, a BUS!
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Old 12-10-2020, 08:54 PM   #1156
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to balance all the dislikes and folks who need glasses to properly see proportion and not plain shapes...

it looks great! love the hips like before, really dig the sleek and modern tailights, love that they black out the cover, the rear window being a bit wider makes it look more substantial, diffuser looks awesome and I really like the license plate location...can't wait to see it some toyota-only colors ^^



where were yall when the twins first came out?? there were plenty of folks that thought (and still think) the twins looked like total shit, either it looks like a cheap car or they cried that it didn't look like the concepts that came before it. Yall should go back to the threads from 2010-2012 and read through the comments..plenty of disgust..
Ease up there brother. As I’ve said plenty, all of my musings are mine and mine alone. I hope the car sells well and that plenty of people like it. I’m just giving my opinion like everyone else. Your results may vary.
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Old 12-10-2020, 09:10 PM   #1157
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And where was I in 2010? Why I was living the dream, man. I was only 47 then. And I liked the twins. BRZ in particular.
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Tails are fine IMO. If they look a bit like NSX, or Civic, or whatever taillights it doesn't bother me at all, as long as they look good in this context, IMO they do.

Original Ford GT40 had Corvair taillights!
Maserati Khamsin tails are S30 Datsun Z.
Lamborghini Diablo had Z32 300ZX headlights,
Countach had tails from some cheapo car...
McLaren F1 had tails from a Bova Futura, a BUS!
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Old 12-11-2020, 11:21 AM   #1159
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Whether or not the styling is groundbreaking or even appealing to some, the miracle is that they even introduced a new rear wheel drive, 2 door sportscar at all.

^^^This about sums it up for me as well. There's slim pickings out there for a new, affordable, fun to drive, somewhat practical sportscar.



Did everyone here who's married, tie the knot with a centerfold beauty queen or did they get hitched to the girl that in their eyes, was appealing and was looking for something more than skin deep? In the words of Stephen Stills (with creative liberty taken):


Don't be angry, don't be sad
Don't sit crying over good times you've had
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Old 12-11-2020, 11:30 AM   #1160
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Did everyone here who's married, tie the knot with a centerfold beauty queen or did they get hitched to the girl that in their eyes, was appealing and was looking for something more than skin deep?
Well, no but then again I didn't buy my wife, now did I? (the answer is no).

Ever notice that a lot of dorky looking rich guys have "centerfold beauty queen" wives? They didn't buy them but there was money involved in the selection process.
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Ease up there brother. As I’ve said plenty, all of my musings are mine and mine alone. I hope the car sells well and that plenty of people like it. I’m just giving my opinion like everyone else. Your results may vary.
I am at ease yo. Fyi you straight up said it was well received, thats a weird way to say that it is just your opinion pardon me for calling it out.. Regardless, we can all go back to MT, C&D, etc reviews if we need proof many Americans especially think the twins were ugly.. And to be clear I love both first and this 2nd gen styling, dont think either is better looking than the other just different..
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