All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[ZDan]

Plenty of enthusiasts like the new '22 car's styling better. In the s2ki thread nobody is troubled by the new styling, and the first post calls it "better looking." I think it looks great. Not perfect, but neither is the current model.

I'm looking forward to seeing it in person, and more so to driving it

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

All of my car guy/gal friends think it's FUGLY.

Did you know that "fugly" is a portmanteau of "fat" and "ugly"? I ask because I haven't heard anyone describe the new car as fat, portly, bulbous, or any similar adjective. I could see that thrown at the Supra for all its round protrusions but I think you got mixed up describing the new BRZ.

[Lelandjt]

Originally Posted by AnalogMan

For those willing to spend a little more, I think the answer might be the new Nissan Z.

Yeah, I'll have to give the new Z a serious look but I suspect it'll be too heavy and feel too heavy. I just really like the feel of light cars/bikes/motorcycles. By my standards the BRZ is even too heavy considering it's the same weight as my '98 Outback Sport and '12 Mazda 3 that were both 4 door hatchbacks. Unfortunately current safety standards seem to dictate that unless you give up all practicality 2800ish is as light as a car gets and if any attention is taken away from "lightness" a car will weigh at least 3300lbs. Isn't it bizarre these days that little cars like the Cayman and Evora are over 3000lbs and pure sports cars like the Corvette and Supra are a quarter ton more? How that was considered acceptable by the design teams is beyond me.

[Vides990]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Did you know that "fugly" is a portmanteau of "fat" and "ugly"? I ask because I haven't heard anyone describe the new car as fat, portly, bulbous, or any similar adjective. I could see that thrown at the Supra for all its round protrusions but I think you got mixed up describing the new BRZ.

I think that's exactly how it looks, perfect description.

[Willpower]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Plenty of enthusiasts like the new '22 car's styling better. In the s2ki thread nobody is troubled by the new styling, and the first post calls it "better looking." I think it looks great. Not perfect, but neither is the current model.

I'm looking forward to seeing it in person, and more so to driving it

See that’s absolutely crazy, and they need to get you back to the damn nuthouse before you hurt somebody.

J/k! To each his own and it’s a good thing we have differing tastes. It’s great that there are people who like the way the car looks and will buy it. That’s the only way the segment survives.

[AnalogMan]

Originally Posted by Vides990

Edit: I came from the FD world so nothing will ever top a rotary for me, from the smoothness to sounding like a turbine, my experience was great.

I came from the same world. My first Wankel 'vehicle' was a 1975 Suzuki RE5 motorcycle I bought in 1977 as a new unsold leftover. Then a 1974 Mazda RX4, and more recently, a couple of RX8's. Despite all the inherent design limitations of rotary engines, I absolutely love them. I sorely miss my last RX8...

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Did you know that "fugly" is a portmanteau of "fat" and "ugly"?

Heh, it is also short for 'F'ing Ugly' here in Straya. So that is also a possibility.

I ask because I haven't heard anyone describe the new car as fat, portly, bulbous, or any similar adjective.

I've described the new nose and bonnet/hood line as 'bulbous' in some of my earlier reactions to the reveal. So now you have. Fact is the 1st gen has a flatter and lower looking nose (note, looking, I'm not claiming it is literally lower, it could be an optical effect).

I think you got mixed up describing the new BRZ.

Styling is 100% subjective. No need and not much chance of convincing others about the styling. If you like it, great, enjoy it. Some love it, some hate it. For me it's a bit of a mixed bag. I'm just hoping the 86 will fix some of my issues with the BRZ, especially the nose area.

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by Lelandjt

Isn't it bizarre these days that little cars like the Cayman and Evora are over 3000lbs and pure sports cars like the Corvette and Supra are a quarter ton more? How that was considered acceptable by the design teams is beyond me.

Light, affordable, fast. Pick two.

I'm sure the design teams do the best they can and consider their cars acceptable given the range of competing priorities and requirements they have to meet to bring a decent car to market at a competitive price.

[TheDonEffect]

Originally Posted by ZDan

Plenty of enthusiasts like the new '22 car's styling better. In the s2ki thread nobody is troubled by the new styling, and the first post calls it "better looking." I think it looks great. Not perfect, but neither is the current model.

I'm looking forward to seeing it in person, and more so to driving it

Yup.

Personally, the only thing I'm iffy about with the new design is the front bumper, but I still like it and in some ways prefer it to current car (I really don't like the mouth guard), and the rocker panels are pretty pronounced, otherwise it's a good look.

The car just looks more premium and mature. I always hated the fake fender vent, hated all the factory installed spoilers especially the monogram spoiler, and never liked the shape of the lights. The functional vents, integrated duck tail, and light shapes to my eye just looks better.

Almost every other car group generally likes the design, only in the 86/BRZ groups do I see so much dislike for it.

[JesseG]

Originally Posted by Willpower

Just FYI, I never thought the BRZ looked expensive or exotic, just good, and exceptionally so to my eye for the price point. A well sorted one doesn’t look cheap either, at least to my eye. That said, I’ve had a number of people approach me over the years asking me what it was, and making some kind of comment about how it must be expensive. Obviously these were not car enthusiasts, or they’d have known exactly what it was, but it lends itself to the possibility that the car may look higher end to the uninitiated than it actually is.

So true, a properly set up FR-S/86/BRZ can look so nice. More expensive looking than they are for sure. And I don’t mean that in an arrogant way, just that people think it’s something more exotic. My car is the favorite of the school drop off/pick up lane, and it probably costs 1/3 of many of the cars in line. My FR-S has a few subtle modifications, and a stock exhaust. I always love looking back at it in a parking lot. That’s how I know I really like a car.
New car designs are often polarizing at launch, and some go on to be classics, and others look awkward as the years go on. I think the 2nd gen twins will be considered attractive when it’s all said and done. It’s not a radical departure from the 1st gen, and I think that is a really good thing. I really like the functional vents and the more aggressive look. T/S know they are competing in a tough segment, even though the Miata is really its closest competitor performance wise. It’s clear they wanted the 2nd gen to make a bigger statement, and honestly that’s the only way it will sell.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[ToySub1946]

Sorry, Late to the game this time...for pg. 77.

Tcoat:

YOU stole my Vape Pen...fess up..

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL As soon as somebody that already owns ones says they don't like the new design the go to answer is it must be "confirmation bias/psychological investment". It can't possibly be that they simply don't like it because it is ugly as hell to them. If this had been the first version ever I can 100% guarantee that I would not have even considered buying it.
Of course the current owners like the current version. THAT IS WHY THEY OWN THEM. That does not for one second say that their opinion on the new is invalid because some some dumbass thinks the monstrosity it became looks good.
Doesn't matter what your group of friends think unless they go out and buy one. At least the people that bought the first ones voted with their wallet. We will see if the same happens with the new one. It should sell well if it comes with a flat brim cap and vape setup.

https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...r-18th-release

The official Subaru press release says it has “improved styling”. So it must be true, right? It’s not from a click bait source .

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

https://media.subaru.com/pressreleas...r-18th-release

The official Subaru press release says it has “improved styling”. So it must be true, right? It’s not from a click bait source .

It also says it has " The overall impression is modern, agile and powerful"








im·pres·sion

/imˈpreSHən/

See definitions in:
noun

noun: impression; plural noun: impressions

1. 1.
   an idea, feeling, or opinion about something or someone, especially one formed without conscious thought or on the basis of little evidence.
2. 2.
   an imitation of a person or thing, especially one done to entertain

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

It also says it has " The overall impression is modern, agile and powerful"

im·pres·sion

/imˈpreSHən/

See definitions in:
noun

noun: impression; plural noun: impressions

1. 1.
   an idea, feeling, or opinion about something or someone, especially one formed without conscious thought or on the basis of little evidence.
2. 2.
   an imitation of a person or thing, especially one done to entertain

It also says. “The BRZ’s bold new styling is as impressive as its handling prowess.” I guess everyone can agree it’s bold.