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Old 07-24-2012, 09:44 AM   #15
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:08 PM   #16
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I will be on that bar as soon as it's ready as well.

I tracked the BRZ this weekend and was VERY surprised at it. AX6 front pads, better fluid, light 17x7s, 215 RS-s3s, as much camber as possible in front (on stock setup), .12 toe in each side in rear. Car was amazingly neutral and did not fail me on track. This was my first venture onto Sebring (club) as well. I did not get passed a single time.

When I get the video up tonight/tomorrow, would you mind giving me your opinion Sam?

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Well, I have to say I'm impressed you drive that well considering your arms are straight out like that.

I'd suggest you get a little closer to the wheel so you can have some bend in your elbows. It makes being precise a lot easier. You can see some of the turn in's are a big abrupt because you need to kind of force it from that driving position.

I, for some reason, cannot get my video to load. I'm 6'1" and 265, and I sit a lot closer. Not NASCAR close but I can cross over the wheel in long corners.

It's hard to tell much else since Sebring is so big and flowing. Nothing really tight or technical. A few times you looked to not let the car run all the way out on exit, but nothing terrible.

Any hints on how to get a 1080p file to load? 12 hours and it ended up not taking on Youtube.
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Old 07-24-2012, 09:20 PM   #17
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Looks great guys hope to have some footage of our cars in the next couple weeks up. Love seeing enthusiasts like this who use the car as designed!
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Old 07-24-2012, 10:50 PM   #18
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Well, I have to say I'm impressed you drive that well considering your arms are straight out like that.

I'd suggest you get a little closer to the wheel so you can have some bend in your elbows. It makes being precise a lot easier. You can see some of the turn in's are a big abrupt because you need to kind of force it from that driving position.

I, for some reason, cannot get my video to load. I'm 6'1" and 265, and I sit a lot closer. Not NASCAR close but I can cross over the wheel in long corners.
Thanks. I'll try that but I really didnt feel like my arms were stretched out much. Others have noted that from the video but my instructor is didn't even note that. I wonder if the angle makes it look more rigid than it feels? Im autocrossing this weekend so I'll make note of it.

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It's hard to tell much else since Sebring is so big and flowing. Nothing really tight or technical. A few times you looked to not let the car run all the way out on exit, but nothing terrible.
I definitely made an effort to but a couple of corners feel weird tracking out all of the way. But I fought initial instinct to let it go out. This is only my second time on a bigger track (did 2 small tracks, solo, and of course 2 years of autocross)

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It has to do with the large file size. You aren't getting it uploaded likely because its too large and there is a hiccup during the uploading. You need to reencode with a good program like Handbrake. It's kinda difficult for the first time setup but if you want, we can do a remote session tomorrow and I can show you how to reencode your video to both look good and be smaller. GoPro footage (most cameras for that matter) come out huge and need compression that tiny device cannot do in real time.

Long story short, Im on break tomorrow from 1 to 2. Call me around 1, I can walk you through a real easy screen sharing program that will let me walk see your screen so I can tell you how to set up re-encoding. Makes uploading video much easier. This stuff is my job so I'm about as familiar with it as you are race setups
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:31 PM   #19
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Great write up...... Interesting about the stability failing.....did it give you a warning light or anything?

I found it worked VERY well in my bone stock FRS, BUT it cooked the brakes big time...I got significant brake fade in THREE LAPS (think 7 minutes).....I had to really try to smooth out my driving to keep it from intervening...but when it did it was barely noticeable....not the drastic cut that my old C6 Z06 or E92 M3 did.....

I only ran it for 1 session, so I didn't try it without the stability......I plan on doing that next.....especially since my race car is down for shock rebuild right now....

maybe the mods to your car (way better suspension-brakes-tires) made the computer freak out?
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Suspension modifications shouldn't do anything to upset a traction control system, it just measuring relative wheel speeds and acceleration vectors and compensates with braking force and reduced power input to try to reduce relative wheel speeds and slip angles to what it's parameters intend. If it sees prolonged exposure to these signals and cannot correct, the computer will assume the inputs are bad signals and throws a flag that there is something wrong with the input signal.

This was most definitely caused by a severe lack of available grip.
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Old 07-25-2012, 05:51 PM   #21
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Sam, what size RS3 and which wheel are you running? Thanks
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:29 PM   #22
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I had similar results as Sam with the Sport mode. I believe its more of a traction control limiter as it really couldn't handle much slip angle. I found it impossible to go quick with it on but it was worth trying.

I'm looking forward to programmable traction control with the Hydra EMS should be a little less scary in the rain than defeating it 100%. By the way I run with it off but at the GRM UTCC race something was still flashing on my dash but i can't say i felt intervention. Has anyone else noticed this?
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By the way I run with it off but at the GRM UTCC race something was still flashing on my dash but i can't say i felt intervention. Has anyone else noticed this?
I ran my car for 1 session (bone stock) at Summit Main on the Friday of Hyperfest while I was up there coaching a couple of SpecE30 racers. I had the stability fully turned off. However, I did have a "slippery when wet"-looking light come on in the tach under braking. I believe that this was notifying me that the electronic brake force distribution was working. I started paying attention to it and I could feel the system actually working really well, adding brake force to the tires that had a touch more grip. I primarily noticed this coming down the hill to the left hander, I think that was called between turns 4 and 5, iirc.

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I ran my car for 1 session (bone stock) at Summit Main on the Friday of Hyperfest while I was up there coaching a couple of SpecE30 racers. I had the stability fully turned off. However, I did have a "slippery when wet"-looking light come on in the tach under braking. I believe that this was notifying me that the electronic brake force distribution was working. I started paying attention to it and I could feel the system actually working really well, adding brake force to the tires that had a touch more grip. I primarily noticed this coming down the hill to the left hander, I think that was called between turns 4 and 5, iirc.

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Wait, are you saying that you had everything fully turned off and it still stepped in? I thought the system was fully defeatable.
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It wasn't the TPMS light, was it?
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By the way I run with it off but at the GRM UTCC race something was still flashing on my dash but i can't say i felt intervention. Has anyone else noticed this?
My guess would be the Slip Indicator light letting you know that you were losing traction, though this does not mean any electronic aids where in use.
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Ive noticed the light come on while driving really hard with the systems all off. Didn't feel any intervention, just a notification of "You're possibly overdriving!"
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Wait, are you saying that you had everything fully turned off and it still stepped in? I thought the system was fully defeatable.
It did NOT step in with stability control. I was able to drift at will. It was only the brake force distribution. I was ok with it, as it does what no human can do. Its basically just an advancement on ABS that lots of cars have. I haven't noticed other cars to be tuned this aggressively, though. Maybe it was because it was on the stock not-so-grippy tires that I noticed it more.
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