All-New 2022 Subaru BRZ Makes Global Debut

[Lantanafrs2]

I wonder what size throttle body

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by jvincent

I took a quick look at the 2022 and 2018 engine bays side by side and they are are very, very close. The only obvious thing I could see was that the sound tube connection was missing from the new engine bay.

The most obvious thing is WHERE IN THE CHRIST IS MY RED-PAINTED ALUMINUM INTAKE MANIFOLD!

Honestly I can live with it for massively more torque and decently more power and same revs, but dang...

[new2subaru]

Originally Posted by jvincent

I'll be pulling off the rear LCAs when I move to the new model. Fingers crossed they will fit.

Betcha they fit like a glove.

[weederr33]

Originally Posted by ZDan

The most obvious thing is WHERE IN THE CHRIST IS MY RED-PAINTED ALUMINUM INTAKE MANIFOLD!

Honestly I can live with it for massively more torque and decently more power and same revs, but dang...

You know, as silly as it sounds, I was wondering where the red manifold was too. It actually looks better. But I'm sure there are reasons they didn't. They also brought back the D4S cover too.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by weederr33

You know, as silly as it sounds, I was wondering where the red manifold was too. It actually looks better. But I'm sure there are reasons they didn't. They also brought back the D4S cover too.

The blue one is an AT. That's the engine bay in the pictures. Maybe the red manifold will be back for manual only. Would be cool to have it again.


Edit: Wait... Nevermind I'm stupid...

[Lantanafrs2]

Originally Posted by ZDan

The most obvious thing is WHERE IN THE CHRIST IS MY RED-PAINTED ALUMINUM INTAKE MANIFOLD!

Honestly I can live with it for massively more torque and decently more power and same revs, but dang...

I think there was never anything wrong with the black plastic manifold

[igorotak]

Wait for Gen2 refresh for the red manifold

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by igorotak

Wait for Gen2 refresh for the red manifold

i was going to say this, but i'm starting to seriously question if there's time yet for any ICE after 2025. many countries are starting to ban new sales...

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by ZDan

The most obvious thing is WHERE IN THE CHRIST IS MY RED-PAINTED ALUMINUM INTAKE MANIFOLD!

It is waiting with that extra 5HP for the mid-life refresh about 4 years after launch.

They have to leave a few things off the table for now, so they have some goodies to encourage people to buy the ‘improved’ refresh model.

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i was going to say this, but i'm starting to seriously question if there's time yet for any ICE after 2025. many countries are starting to ban new sales...

I doubt Subaru and Toyota would expend millions of dollars developing the 2nd gen only to sell it for 3-4 years. Unless the USA, Japan and Australia all ban ICE cars by 2025, which ain’t happening, the 2nd gen twins will likely have a similar model life to the 1st gen, i.e. 7-8 years, so a mid-cycle refresh at 4 years is likely.

Even in Europe, which apparently isn’t getting the BRZ anyway, they are not banning new ICE sales until 2030, a full 10 years away. Still plenty of time for a full ICE lifecycle there, if you can meet the strict Euro emissions regs.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

I think there was never anything wrong with the black plastic manifold

It was changed for a reason not just to look pretty but the new one could be different again and just looks like the first.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Red-86

I doubt Subaru and Toyota would expend millions of dollars developing the 2nd gen only to sell it for 3-4 years. Unless the USA, Japan and Australia all ban ICE cars by 2025, which ain’t happening, the 2nd gen twins will likely have a similar model life to the 1st gen, i.e. 7-8 years, so a mid-cycle refresh at 4 years is likely.

Even in Europe, which apparently isn’t getting the BRZ anyway, they are not banning new ICE sales until 2030, a full 10 years away. Still plenty of time for a full ICE lifecycle there, if you can meet the strict Euro emissions regs.

Sure they would. It happens all the time.
Remember they don't have to ban ICE cars but they can make the requirements so stringent it isn't worth making them.
Could see a hybrid though. I was very scared that this round would be one actually.

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

Call me crazy.



My first thought was Ferrari Roma. Second was Viper.

Yeeeeeeah... ...no.

[serialk11r]

What's all the fuss about the red manifold? Isn't that what red paint is for? :P

It's not super clear what they've done to enable the 13.5 compression ratio, but it doesn't seem like there have been any big changes to the head, so my belief is that E85 + tune will make an even bigger difference than it did on the older cars, while bolt ons won't be as much of an improvement. I recall people saying the FA20s were pinging on 91 gas, so this engine is going to leave even more on the table.