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BRZ Second-Gen (2022+) -- General Topics General topics for the second-gen BRZ


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Old 11-18-2020, 10:17 AM   #71
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Excellent. My FRS will be 8 years old next fall and this looks like a perfect replacement.

The real question is if I wait until the following spring to let the first production run gremlins get worked out.
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so when is the toyota getting revealed?
anyone recall the time differences of when the 1st gen debut?
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Although the engine itself is not "new" the addition of the Toyota fuel system to give it port and direct injection is unique to this car making it a bespoke combination.
Still haven't seen anything on what platform they used but the increased stiffness would lead in the direction of the new global one. This will allow for quite a few parts bins adaptions.


EDIT- Missed this before "Featuring a bespoke chassis" So not likely the Global Platform!
The motor is certainly new in terms of specifications.
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Old 11-18-2020, 10:20 AM   #74
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I wonder when they'll have a performance package out and in red... Definitely interested in Gen 2 but also not in a rush. The updates are inviting; more torque and better amenities but we'll have to see. I'm definitely thinking about test driving one.
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the reaction from vwvortex seems to be generally positive.

https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...u-BRZ-Revealed
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Excellent. My FRS will be 8 years old next fall and this looks like a perfect replacement.

The real question is if I wait until the following spring to let the first production run gremlins get worked out.
New motor means let's repeat the 2013 valve spring fun one more time!
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Old 11-18-2020, 10:25 AM   #77
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anyone recall the time differences of when the 1st gen debut?
Ichi stated somewhere about it being released next year. Too lazy to go find the specific quoted date.
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the reaction from vwvortex seems to be generally positive.

https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...u-BRZ-Revealed

Yeah but I think VW people are happy with anything that doesn't have a CEL on all the time.



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Company Built By: Subaru [CONFIRMED]
Plant Produced In: Subaru – Gunma Prefecture, Japan [CONFIRMED]
Platform: Subaru Global Platform v2 with revised Sub frame assemblies for a lower center of gravity & 40% Stiffer than v1 [SUSPECTED] Still very sure, 50% stiffer confirmed
Power plant possibility #1: FA24 - 2.4L boxer 4-cylinder - Normally Aspirated (86/BRZ specific, not used in any other model) Power: 215 – 225 HP, 170-200ft/lb. torque [CONFIRMED] Actual: 228 HP, 184 ft/lbs

Weight: Under 2,881lbs [CONFIRMED] Actual: 2831lbs 6MT, 2,881lbs 6AT
Suspension changes: 5x114.3 lug pattern, larger STI style wheel bearings [SUSPECTED]
Aluminum knuckles [SUSPECTED]
Models/Trims/Pricing (MSRP): [SUSPECTED]
Subaru: BRZ Limited – MT or AT w/Eyesight - $29,915 (MT) / $31,715 (AT)
Performance Package adds $2,975 - $32,890 (MT) / $34,690 (AT)
TS – MT Only (Released 1 year after) - $35,245

Toyota: 86 – MT or AT - $28,975 (MT) / $29,715 (AT)
TRD Package adds $2,975 - $31,950 (MT) / $32,690 (AT)
GR86 – MT Only (Released 1 year after) - $34,845

Official Announcement Date: November 18, 2020 [CONFIRMED]
Projected Release Date: Spring 2021 [SUSPECTED] Actual: Early Fall 2021

Originally created on: 02/17/2020
Updates: 11/17/2020

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BRZ Limited 6MT
PRICE STARTING AT: $29,923

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EPA Classification: Subcompact Cars

Drivetrain: Rear Wheel Drive
Engine Type and Required Fuel: Premium Unleaded H-4
Displacement (liters/cubic inches): 2.4 L/146

Fuel System: Gasoline Direct Injection
Maximum Horsepower @ RPM: 221 @ 6000 / 228 @ 7000
Maximum Torque @ RPM: 193 @ 4400 / 184 @ 3,700
Number of Transmission Speeds: 6
First Gear Ratio (:1): 3.63
Second Gear Ratio (:1): 2.19
Third Gear Ratio (:1): 1.54
Fourth Gear Ratio (:1): 1.21
Fifth Gear Ratio (:1): 1.00
Sixth Gear Ratio (:1): 0.77
Reverse Ratio (:1): 3.44
Final Drive Axle Ratio (:1) : 4.30


Fuel Economy and Range
CO2 Emissions, 15K mi/year (tons): 6.5
Range, city/highway (miles): 283.10 / 371.80
EPA Fuel Economy, combined/city/highway (mpg): 28 / 30 / 37
Fuel Capacity / Gas Tank Size: 13.8

Exterior Dimensions
Wheelbase (inches): 101.7 / 101.4
Length (inches): 164.3 / 167.9
Width, without mirrors (inches): 70.1
Height (inches): 52.4 / 51.6
Front Track Width (inches): 60.1
Rear Track Width (inches): 60.8
Minimum Ground Clearance (inches): 4.9

Interior Dimensions
Passenger / Seating Capacity: 4
Total Passenger Volume (cubic feet): 77.2
Front Head Room (inches): 37.2
Front Leg Room (inches): 42.0
Front Shoulder Room (inches): 54.8
Front Hip Room (inches): 53.4
Second Row Head Room (inches): 35.3
Second Row Leg Room (inches): 30.2
Second Row Shoulder Room (inches): 51.8
Second Row Hip Room (inches): 46.2

Cargo Area Dimensions
Trunk Space (cubic feet): 6.6

Steering: Rack-Pinion (Electric)

Suspension
Front Suspension Type: Strut
Rear Suspension Type: Double Wishbone


Brakes
Brake Type: 4-Wheel Disc
Anti-Lock-Braking System: 4-Wheel
Front Brake Rotors, diameter x thickness (inches): 11.6
Rear Brake Rotors, diameter x thickness (inches): 11.4


Wheels and Tires (Close, these are Premium model Specs)
Front Wheel Size (inches): 17 X 7.5
Front Wheel Material: Aluminum
Front Tire Size: P225/45YR17
Rear Wheel Size (inches): 17 X 7.5
Rear Wheel Material: Aluminum
Rear Tire Size: P225/45YR17
Spare Wheel Size (inches): Compact
Spare Wheel Material: Steel
Spare Tire Size: Compact

Wheel Bolt Pattern: 5 x 114.3mm

Base Curb Weight (pounds): 2881 6AT / 2,831 6MT

Electrical
Cold Cranking Amps @ 0° F: 470
Maximum Alternator Capacity (amps): 190


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Red are off. They may not be way off but the insider info was not accurate.
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Yuck. Based on the previous cosmetic changes I knew I probably wasn't going to like this, but this is much worse than I feared. The looks alone would keep me away from it regardless of everything else...really disappointing.
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the reaction from vwvortex seems to be generally positive.

https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthre...u-BRZ-Revealed
Who cares?
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The motor is certainly new in terms of specifications.
Not sure what you mean. Yes it is a "new" version of an existing engine but unlike the FA20 they didn't develop a whole new engine for it just altered what they had.
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Who cares?
Subaru marketing/PR and design team?

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Wheels and Tires (Close, these are Premium model Specs)
Front Wheel Size (inches): 17 X 7.5
Front Wheel Material: Aluminum
Front Tire Size: P225/45YR17
Rear Wheel Size (inches): 17 X 7.5
Rear Wheel Material: Aluminum
Rear Tire Size: P225/45YR17
Spare Wheel Size (inches): Compact
Spare Wheel Material: Steel
Spare Tire Size: Compact

Wheel Bolt Pattern: 5 x 114.3mm
You can pretty much confirm the bolt pattern as 5x114.3, as the GR Yaris is using the same style wheels (albiet in forged flavour) and has a 5x114.3 pattern. (I've also edited my original comment with this info)

2022 BRZ:


2021 GR Yaris:
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