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Don't hold your breath, a Yaris GR4 would not sell well in the America's. A corolla is more likely to sell better as everyone here seems to have the confusion that the greater the size the better the vehicle. If a GR corolla is to become a reality expect it to compete in the area of Civic Si/Golf GTI. If it were to be a GR4* corolla, good luck competing with the CTR, the only thing that has a chance right now would be an even higher trim Veloster N which doesn't exist(or tuned/modded current N), or the yet debuted 2022 STi; strictly speaking performance.
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For me it's not the size, it's the weight, and you're not adding any more power without adding the weight to the driveline to handle it. That's what's awesome about the GR Yaris, it's so damn light. Quote:
TNGA-C platform that underpins the Corolla doesn't accept a V6 as far as I can tell sooo, while interesting as a concept (more so then the veloster N or Si competitor that's likely to be in development) I don't think Toyota is willing to build an STI/GolfR/CTR competitor while already carrying two low selling cars in the 86 and Supra. Quote:
Toyota doesn't have a good engine for this niche though except the 8AR-FTS in the current IS300 making 244 horses, so I expect it'll be Veloster N price for Civic Si performance, heavier then both, middling horsepower. |
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This month's Car magazine, Hot Hatch 2020 review and guess what? Yaris GR4 pitched against the current leaders of the pack.. I won't spoil the review.. there is a wee clue here...
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Ok, last review I'll post lol
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So the chassis may not have been designed to accommodate a V6 but it wouldnt stop them from trying (also like the Lexus ISF, i dont think the IS Variant of that chassis was designed to accomodate a V8) |
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This is perhaps my biggest annoyance about modern cars in general. They’ve just gotten so damn big - tall, wide, long, and fat. I hate the fact so many people fall for the idea bigger is better. Meanwhile, our roads, garages and car parking spaces aren’t getting any bigger!
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Another review..
2021 Toyota GR Yaris review | Hot hatch perfection: |
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I think I want one of these, haven’t been this excited about a car, since, well the twins. I said to my wife, “this looks pretty good”. Her response, “get one if you want, you’d have to trade in the BRZ”. I was thinking in addition to.... Hmmm, considering her car is an ‘08 Mazda 3 SP23, (the workhorse), she’s due for a new car before me anyway.
Another review, the guy gets overly excited, but can’t blame him I guess. Sport mode is 30/70 split too, almost RWD, so cool. Last edited by Dirty Harry; 11-14-2020 at 02:17 AM. |
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Basically Toyota built the awd 2 door car that no one has seen in the USA since the Mazda 323 GTX or Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX and Toyota USA decided no one in the USA would even think of buying it. I'd literally go buy this car right now if I could. I hate Toyota USA.
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Here is the official English presentation of the car. This is almost 30 minutes long but has a lot of interesting details and information.
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There are so many reviews that it's almost painful to watch, considering that it's not available in North America and I desperately want one.
I think that Autogefühl does the best review of them all.
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textbook example of us not getting cool stuff from japan. familiarity feels good
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I posted that one further up. But yeah I liked the guys review. But I also like the more dry German presentation
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Then there's the infamous Honda turbo upshift throttle hang issue apparent in the video but can't tell for sure if it's driver or ECU induced. TMNA doesn't make many marketing mistakes so their product planning matrix may have concluded that it's over the top for us. Maybe the more traditionally styled (and attractive IMO) GR Corolla hatch, or whatever they'll call it, will be close enough if they can shave the price $10k with US production. I'm justifying my disappointment though and on principle will never buy a GR Corolla knowing what they kept from us. Bastards. |
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