Subaru previews next-generation BRZ, announces November 18th unveiling date

[Red-86]

Originally Posted by spike021

S-FR??

That would be so cool. I still don’t know why Toyota didn’t try to team up with Mazda for the ND and share the MX-5 platform. At pretty low development cost Toyota could have had an S-FR coupe and Mazda would have the roadster variants. Win win.

The other thing I’d love to see is a new MR2. But not some big, crazy C8 expensive thing, but a Lotus Elise sized one with a peppy and reliable 4 pot engine to keep costs down, like the originals. In the spirit of platform sharing, Toyota should team up with Lotus to reuse the Elise platform. Heck, Lotus have already shown how awesome Toyota engines can be in a proper MR car.

Of course, neither will happen.

[Red-86]

That Jalop photoshop worries me. As someone else said, the new headlight design makes it look a little Porsche SUV-ish. That shape can work on a Cayman, because of the much lower and flatter bonnet thanks to the mid-engine. But even with a boxer 4, the BRZ needs a higher bonnet. We shall see in a couple of weeks I guess. Maybe it will work.

I’m mostly concerned with the engine they’ll use, how it delivers power, and weight. If it stays similar weight and adds at least a modest power and torque bump, it hasn’t gone backwards.

Oh, and I really hope they didn’t stick an iPad to the dash for infotainment. That trend is already fading as makers work to integrate their screens more organically and aesthetically. Please, no giant ugly tablet sticking out like dog’s balls. This gen has to look fresh and modern for another 7-8 years.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Opie

Standard model coming first...then better model(s) later.

Like new WRX later next year, but STI not until a year later...

Figured that may be the case but I was shooting a shot and attempting to be hopeful haha.

[HKz]

Originally Posted by Red-86

That Jalop photoshop worries me. As someone else said, the new headlight design makes it look a little Porsche SUV-ish. That shape can work on a Cayman, because of the much lower and flatter bonnet thanks to the mid-engine. But even with a boxer 4, the BRZ needs a higher bonnet. We shall see in a couple of weeks I guess. Maybe it will work.

is it really lower..?



i like the baby cayman styling and it still looks like a 86/brz

[alone1i]

Banning of combustion engine cars in many countries + hard emission target + low volume sells + current lineup-> 86, supra, GR Yaris.
Still can we expect one more sports car from Toyota?

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Opie

The SGP -Subaru Global Platform was engineered in 2016, and is just a stronger, lighter version of the platform used before it. It is easily scalable to use on larger (Ascent) and smaller cars. There are clear indications it's under the new BRZ in the camo car pics...you just need to know where, and what you are looking at.

You're a little late to this party...

We're well aware of the new subaru global platform. and it has been making its way into various cars, once they get redesigned. (Just like Toyota and its TNGA platform)

With that said there has been NO indication that the new 86/BRZ is using the new global platforms other than baseless guessing, speculation and wishful thinking. If its a full redesign then yeah it makes sense to plunk it there. But it sounds like its just a heavy refresh (like the 2021 Lexus IS) so its still possibly using an updated version of its current platform.

All will be (or should be) revealed on the 18th.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Opie

The SGP -Subaru Global Platform was engineered in 2016, and is just a stronger, lighter version of the platform used before it. It is easily scalable to use on larger (Ascent) and smaller cars. There are clear indications it's under the new BRZ in the camo car pics...you just need to know where, and what you are looking at.

I know all that. In fact I have been preaching it since 2016 and people here outright called me a moron for even purposing such an impossible thing.
I want real confirmation not "you can tell if you know". Until it is confirmed it is still just more clickbait fodder. Sorry that is just the way I see things.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by alone1i

Banning of combustion engine cars in many countries + hard emission target + low volume sells + current lineup-> 86, supra, GR Yaris.
Still can we expect one more sports car from Toyota?

Not likely pure ICE ones!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by HKz

is it really lower..?



i like the baby cayman styling and it still looks like a 86/brz

The camo is messing with people's depth perception exactly as it is deigned to do so there will be all sorts of theories on the size and actual shape.

[gymratter]

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by gymratter

It’s close... but bit off. I think, dimension is off

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

It’s close... but bit off. I think, dimension is off

good to know. i wasn't sure if it was an official teaser or fan made.

[BlueWhelan]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

It’s close... but bit off. I think, dimension is off

Looks quite wide, too wide. Almost like a Panamera...

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

It’s close... but bit off. I think, dimension is off

I realize that you may have seen this thing in person, but dimensions can be manipulated with lenses and photoshop. Manufactures do this often by making cars look wider and lower or whatever.

Are you saying this is render, or are you saying what I am saying above, that the dimensions look off because of lens perspective or photoshopping?